Shot in the bears eyes

[mooman76]

I watched the Movie," Grizzly Man". Timothy Treadwell and he was a half a box short of crackers of having a full box. His camera was on when he was attacked but only sound was available. It use to be on line where you could here what was going on.

 

[ML48]

I watched the Movie," Grizzly Man". Timothy Treadwell and he was a half a box short of crackers of having a full box. His camera was on when he was attacked but only sound was available. It use to be on line where you could here what was going on.

I watched that video many moons ago. That guy wasn't half a box of crackers short....he was just plain mentally incapacitated(short for NUTS)!!

 

[4575wcf]

They didn't surprise the bear, they were in their tent at night when he stalked in. The guy (Timothy Treadwell) went our to scare it off and was killed, the woman took scared to run was next. They were meant to fly our of AK the following day.

He was an ***** though, always getting too close to wild bears with no weapons what so ever to defend himself.

Oh Sorry. I misremembered a bit, then I pulled up Wiki to check myself. Worse yet--the bear was hunting them. That story is just nasty, you would be hard pressed to make up something as weird.

Timothy was no *****. He just got too familiar, and he lost respect. A Kodiak (Grizzly) bear is a big predator, bigger and badder than everybody else. He does not think, he does not reason, he does not feel sympathy, he is not aware that one day he will die. He lives by instinct like any other wild animal. Thus he is completely unpredictable. He will do whatever occurs to him to do, including killing you on occasion.

 

[SOLANCO]

This is rural Southern Lancaster County Pennsylvania. Farms. Woods. Small towns and small crossroads shopping centers. Braked for six wild turkeys crossing a back road today. There are groundhogs, squirrels, foxes, coyote, eagles, hawks, chipmunks, racoons, snakes, frogs, toads and now in the last few years: Young migrant bears.

There comes a time in a cubs life when mama bear cuts his corner off the table and breaks the cubs dish. Tells him hit the road and find your own range. Not often, but we do get siteings of cubs ranging through here. Looking for a place to call home. Local guy looked out his second floor window in the little town of Quarryville and saw a bear cub in a tree looking back in. Game Commission relocated him.
Over by the Delaware River it is shallow upstream. Cubs wade it into New Jersey looking for a spot.

Couple years back, a wild turkey in the middle of town fought his reflection in the window of the the local Magistrate's office. Stay away from cities and suburbs and you will see more wildlife than you expect.

 

[4575wcf]

Sorry, but I have to relate this story. A couple in Gresham OR a few years ago noticed a bear in their tree by the house. Fish and Game came out and tranquilized it and it fell on the deck. Oregon shut down all bear and cougar hunting with dogs some years ago, and these incidences seem to be increasing. Used to be a video online of a young cougar caught on surveillance camera coming in through a dog door and taking a small terrior, but I have not been able to find it recently. There have been several reports of a "big kitty" that is contesting the right of way on the footpath of the upper Multnomah Falls area with hikers, but so far nobody has got lunched.

 

[bud in pa]

Here in the Poconos we have decent sized black bears. One shot behind the NASCAR track some years back was weighed at the check station, using their formula the estimated live weight of that one was 834 pounds. I have had bears well over 500 pounds in my backyard. The last one snuck up on me while
I was barbequing. Never heard him, I turn around and he is about 25 feet from me. I grabbed my canned air horn gave him a blast and he took off, thank God. This is why I hunt squirrels with 20 gauge fowler. in a life or death situation a shot load from a 20 gauge will definitely put a hurting on a bear. I have cut down 3 inch saplings with my 20 gauge, not on purpose.

 

[4575wcf]

Out here in the west a 250 pound black bear is a big one. An occasional attack, even a man eating incident has occurred, but extremely rarely. The story we get out here is that the "dump" black bears of the east get very fat and heavy. A few weekends ago you would have caught me up Jordan creek out of Silver City, Idaho creek fishing. I kept a sharp eye out for rattlers, did not see any, but never thought I might have to contest my fishing area with a bear. Of course I was unarmed, but from now on I think I will strap on the .45 Long Colt. The next guy in Idaho who encounters an unfriendly brown or black bear will not be the first. I get complacent. Like the cowboy that Charles Russel told about. "I always carry this pistol, and I almost never need it. But when I need it, I need it damned bad"

 

[ML48]

Just recently up in Montana, a brown bear pulled a California gal out of her tent, and had breakfast...yup...killed her.

 

[Treestalker]

You know, French stories about hunting are like stories about fishing, and I know what I'm talking about: I'm in France quite often, so I know the French a bit. It's not that they are liars, but they like to embellish reality...

What was the size of your last trout ?

WHAT is the SIZE of my TROUT? Why, You dirty little boy!

 

[4575wcf]

Just recently up in Montana, a brown bear pulled a California gal out of her tent, and had breakfast...yup...killed her.

Did the bear actually eat her? I have only heard of it maybe one time with black bears, but strangely it was also a woman.

 

[SOLANCO]

My personal experience with black bears here in the East is that they don't want anything to do with you.
UNLESS: 1) You get between mama and the cubs. Which is just brain dead anyway. Or 2) You are dumb enough to feed them. Either with handouts, accessible feeders for birds etc, or unsecured garbage.

Black bears are omnivores. I've seen blue crabs tear off pieces of newspaper and eat them. Black bears are pickier, but not by much.

Only killed one black bear. Skinned he looked too much like a human for me. I like seeing them which is rare. But I'd much rather shoot a politician than a bear. Although I consider politicians inedible.

 

[longcruise]

Did the bear actually eat her? I have only heard of it maybe one time with black bears, but strangely it was also a woman.

It had been at her tent looking for food earlier and so she and a few other campers put the food elsewhere but the bear came back to the tent. I think it was just P****d off and killed her. Griz are not usually much interested in eating the victim. It's about anger and territory. Black bears that are unprovoked and kill are seeing the human as food and invariably feed of the victim.

Black bears are pretty easy to haze and get rid of them. Never give way to them or let them have the food/garbage they are after. when you do that it's just training the bear.

 

[Stykbow]

Seems like I read once that statistically you’re more likely to be killed in a black bear attack than a grizzly attack. The reasoning was grizzlies mostly attack because you surprise them so the attack tends to stop when they don’t think your a threat. Black bear attacks are a straight up effort to kill and eat you. I hope to never test the theory personally.

 

[ML48]

Did the bear actually eat her? I have only heard of it maybe one time with black bears, but strangely it was also a woman.

Article didn't go in to details.

Seems like I read once that statistically you’re more likely to be killed in a black bear attack than a grizzly attack. The reasoning was grizzlies mostly attack because you surprise them so the attack tends to stop when they don’t think your a threat. Black bear attacks are a straight up effort to kill and eat you. I hope to never test the theory personally.

Theory is just that..unproven.. The grizzly dragged her out of the tent and killed her....she was asleep in her tent. However, stupidity did reign here on the part of the 2 campers next to her. Here is a part of the article.
"The bear initially woke the campers but then ran away. The three campers removed food from their tents, secured it, and went back to bed." ....Do you see a really, really, stupid act there?!

 

[4575wcf]

I remember the story of the yellowstone? bear who figured out how to open Volkswagens. He would spy something good to eat in the cars while the owners were off hiking, then take a running leap and land on the roof of a VW bug. His weight popped the doors open, and then he helped himself to the goodies. He got a few of them before they moved him. Must have done the first one on accident, then made the association. I don't know if he tried other cars or not.

 

[vintovka]

I live right on the banks of a river. We routinely see bear poop not 12 feet from where i am sitting. Down on the mud flats there's an astounding amount of bear poop everywhere. We have cleared the brush way back. I am told the bears subsist on saya berries and will not come near humans. Mr SKS disagrees so pretty much a constant vigil.

 

[zerosprk]

You know, French stories about hunting are like stories about fishing, and I know what I'm talking about: I'm in France quite often, so I know the French a bit. It's not that they are liars, but they like to embellish reality...

What was the size of your last trout ?

I remember embellishing reality a couple of times as a kid. I also remember there being a whoopin' at the end of every one of them...

 

[4575wcf]

Theory is just that..unproven.. The grizzly dragged her out of the tent and killed her....she was asleep in her tent. However, stupidity did reign here on the part of the 2 campers next to her. Here is a part of the article.
"The bear initially woke the campers but then ran away. The three campers removed food from their tents, secured it, and went back to bed." ....Do you see a really, really, stupid act there?!

Oh sorry when you said brown bear I assumed, brown bear, cinnamon bear, black bear all color variations of the same critter here. The grizzly is a different story altogether, we know he kills and eats people on occasion, but the common black bear usually gives ground and tries to get away. Usually--once in awhile there is an incident.

 

[Loyalist Dave]

Boy we seem not to have any ethics, shot first in eye than HOPE to kill with second shoot some ETHICS

You correct today but the account was from 1721 or earlier, and using a muzzleloader.

Speaking of which, while the bear stories are interesting, , we are getting away from muzzleloading and not toward muzzleloader hunting. Let's get back on track?

LD

 

[Eterry]

Boy we seem not to have any ethics, shot first in eye than HOPE to kill with second shoot some ETHICS

The thread is about a guy who did this in 1700!! If something big and furry was trying to digest me into little turds I would be more concerned with SURVIVAL than ETHICS.
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