should I keep waiting ? or get this used 1847 walker

[Candymancan]

So ive been wanting a 1847 walker for a year now. Cabelas never sells them. They only seen to carry the smaller 1851 and 1858 and 1860s. Of all varients.

Local shops never carry black powder but one. And online everything is always out if stock.

I have three options.

A. Keep waiting for a new 1847 walker

B. Buy a Uberti Walker kit. But for 390$ having to case harden and do all that work makes no sense if they are 420$ fully assembled.

C. A local shop that sells my black powder supplies. Has a 1847 walker in the case for sale. Its a really old one. AD date code.. so 1991. I forgot who made it through.

The action works. Cylinder spins. Need a little cleaning and oil. Its a bit rough.. you can tell it was used alot. I havent checked the barrel yet for pitting. But u will. It needs a new wedge as its loose and slides back and forth if i tilt the gun.. this is causing the barrel part to wiggle slightly.

There is a pretty decent gap on the cone to cylinder as well. I guess i need to give the gun a good look over if they will let me take the cylinder and barrel off.

The issue is they want $400 for it. Soo basically the price of a new one.

 

[cynthialee]

watch the in house sales forum here, don't get in a rush and buy a less than optimum gun for a premium price

if you must have it get a brand new one and spend the extra 30 for an assembled one

 

[Pete G]

Do not buy a gun with a loose wedge

 

[Candymancan]

Well i went in to look at it again.. this time they let me take it apart at least th3 barrel and cylinder.. the barrel has 0 rust very clean.. cylinder looks good. The cylinder ring is good. The gun was sold by EMF made in 1991.. EMF sold ASM guns som assuming this is also an Army San Marco.

The arbor is interesting it has a screw on it. Instead of a pin like the newer ones i have.. no sure if its factory or what. But the lose wedge. They offered to give me a new qedge if i bought it.

So i tried the new wedge they had and its tight now. So i decided to buy it. They also gave me 100 454 balls. And a carry bag for pistols for free.

I brought it out back to their range. And fired it 18 times. Seems pretty accurate like my 1851/1860s. I used heavy loads too nearly 60 grains. No issues. Except i have 5 caps not go off on one cylinder. Due to the hammer getting very sticky. So i gatta clean this gun good.

Im happy !

 

[ZUG]

Midway USA usually has them from time to time. That's where I purchased mine. They run sales on them every once in a while. When my birthday was coming up, they sent me a voucher for a discount on some items in their inventory and one of the items was a Walker so I bought one.

 

[springfield art]

So ive been wanting a 1847 walker for a year now. Cabelas never sells them. They only seen to carry the smaller 1851 and 1858 and 1860s. Of all varients.

Local shops never carry black powder but one. And online everything is always out if stock.

I have three options.

A. Keep waiting for a new 1847 walker

B. Buy a Uberti Walker kit. But for 390$ having to case harden and do all that work makes no sense if they are 420$ fully assembled.

C. A local shop that sells my black powder supplies. Has a 1847 walker in the case for sale. Its a really old one. AD date code.. so 1991. I forgot who made it through.

The action works. Cylinder spins. Need a little cleaning and oil. Its a bit rough.. you can tell it was used alot. I havent checked the barrel yet for pitting. But u will. It needs a new wedge as its loose and slides back and forth if i tilt the gun.. this is causing the barrel part to wiggle slightly.

There is a pretty decent gap on the cone to cylinder as well. I guess i need to give the gun a good look over if they will let me take the cylinder and barrel off.

The issue is they want $400 for it. Soo basically the price of a new one.

They are big, heavy guns. The Dragoons are nice, and a bit smaller. Way too much for a "bit rough".

 

[deerstalkert]

when you shake that one apart with those 60g loads, you will wish you had bought a new one.
but it's your gun so enjoy it! jm2cents

 

[Rod Man]

There is a brand new one in the cabinet here (Berryville, AR.). I think they ship out as well. Call them.

https://www.muzzleloadershop.com/contact-us-2/

 

[Woody Morgan]

Have fun with it. Nobody here is going to enjoy it as much as you will.

wm

 

[Candymancan]

when you shake that one apart with those 60g loads, you will wish you had bought a new one.
but it's your gun so enjoy it! jm2cents

I just wanted to test it out lol.. ill do less just to save powder etc

 

[Candymancan]

Anyone know what marking this is ? There is no other proof stanps shoeing who made the gun.. other than EMF which sells them but doesnt make em. Im just assuming its an Arny San Marcos. Because EMF sold their guns. And this walker was made in 91

Oh and here are a couple pics of it.

 

[Rod Man]

Nope, but…Love me some horse pistols, they are by far my favorite.

RM

 

[44Bro]

That is indeed ASM. Check the arbor fit and correct the barrel gap as necessary. That monster gap does need fixing.

 

[Candymancan]

Yep i noticed that gap was HUGE.. haha noticed it myself.

The interesting thing is when i take the cylinder out and put the barrel back on but not on the pins (to check the arbor length). The barrel lines up with the frame by the pins perfectly. Sooo i dunno why there is so much of a huge gap.

The only thing i can think of doing is filing the arbor and checking.. and possibly filing the frame by the two pins to pull the barrel closer. Ive done this to an 1851 navy brass i had.. the gap was massive ( brand new too) but i filed the arbor and the frame by the two pins and that fixed the gap.

However the wedge on is fully inserted and cant go in further. Soo i dunno if filing will work.

What do you suggest ?

 

[Blackpowderwarrior]

Yep i noticed that gap was HUGE.. haha noticed it myself.

The interesting thing is when i take the cylinder out and put the barrel back on but not on the pins (to check the arbor length). The barrel lines up with the frame by the pins perfectly. Sooo i dunno why there is so much of a huge gap.

The only thing i can think of doing is filing the arbor and checking.. and possibly filing the frame by the two pins to pull the barrel closer. Ive done this to an 1851 navy brass i had.. the gap was massive ( brand new too) but i filed the arbor and the frame by the two pins and that fixed the gap.

However the wedge on is fully inserted and cant go in further. Soo i dunno if filing will work.

What do you suggest ?

I suggest selling it and purchasing a new one from midway or Cimarron or wherever you can find one.

Just my honest suggestion

 

[Candymancan]

Thanks but i just bought it.. Not going to run around selling and spending another year to find a new one in stock.

Ill find a way to fix the gap

 

[Blackpowderwarrior]

Thanks but i just bought it.. Not going to run around selling and spending another year to find a new one in stock.

Ill find a way to fix the gap

It should be a fun project either way you go!

 

[44Bro]

I'll re-post the pic I found that shows how Colt did the originals. Note the barrel lug to frame location. Drop a thin washer or two down the arbor hole and try to assemble for a true check of the arbor length(or measure with a caliper). Measure the gap and subtract .0015-.0025 for how much to remove. Start metal removal on the barrel lug first. Arbor second. Measure frequently!!!!

 

[gregdr01]

Jedediah-starr.com is my go-to place for in-stock BP guns, and they have a Walker, $469... 2 in stock at this moment.

https://www.jedediah-starr.com/closeup.asp?searchWord=1847&pid=312&offset=0

 

[Deerslayer]

I second the idea of ordering one from Midway during one of their sales.