Sitting Fox K43

[KentuckyTAL]

I'm new to muzzleloading and I'm doing a little research for a 50 cal. BP rifle.

I really like the looks of the Sitting Fox K43 Southern Mountain Poor Boy Hog 50.
I was quoted $799 for this gun, in the white, with a flintlock.

I am interested in hearing people's experiences with Sitting Fox rifles, good or bad.

Thanks in advance for the comments and advice.

Tim

 

[biliff]

Had Ray put together a percussion version of their Bean squirrel rifle for me and am quite happy with it.

Talked to him on the phone before hand to discuss exactly what I wanted then followed up with their order sheet to get everything on paper.

Ended up with a nice accurate made to order rifle.

Actually won the squirrel trail with it at the 2010 Vernonia Rondy.

 

36" barrel is awfully short for a southern gun, and the germanic slier is totally wrong for this type of gun for it to be close to correct for the style. That said Ron builds a nice gun in the white . I would opt for the 42" barrel, and have him put an L&R Durs Egg, or Late Ketland lock on it. Southern guns almost exclusively have English style locks. It's your money, but if it was my jingle, I'd want it to be more correct. Where a bouts in the state are you.

Bill

 

[KentuckyTAL]

I live in the Grand Rapids area.

I guess I've got some research to do.
If I'm going to spend $800+ I guess I should get something authentic.
I'm 48 now, and my intent is to buy myself a really nice 50 caliber BP rifle for my 50th.
On my 45th I bought myself a Kimber 1911.

I like the looks of the Southern Poor Boy rifles, and the so-called Kentucky rifles. Where would someone start researching these rifles?

Thanks,
Tim

 

[tg]

I would have to go with Bill of the 45th on Sitting Fox guns, they are likley well made but most by the written decription and often choice of parts are quite lacking in the hgistorical accuracy part of the equation if that is important to the buyer, with most vendors of this level one must do theri own research about the type of locks, furniture and other details of any particular gun as they are quite generic and often accuracy will raise the price, for a long time no one much knew or cared but the internet has spread so much knowledge about the original guns that the mediocre attempts at PC/HC are not accepted as well as before.

 

[jethro224]

I'm 48 now, and my intent is to buy myself a really nice 50 caliber BP rifle for my 50th.

Since you have some time to play with...
Have you considered having a custom rifle built just the way you want it? Most good custom builders have a year or more waiting list. Most good custom builders can and will help you out with the getting it right part too, they have done the research. It will cost more but many builders will accept partial payments while you are waiting. There are several who are members here on the forum. Something else to think about. :hmm:

 

[rabjr]

:thumbsup:

Worked for me.

 

[Vtsmoker]

I just ordered the K10 Fowler from Sitting Fox. Expect delivery sometime next week. The others are right about doing your homework on the guns. They helped me more than I can thank them for when I was trying to decide what kit to get. I called Ray to discuss what I wanted for my gun and being a first time builder he was VERY helpfull also. I learned alot from these folks so listen to what they say. The "kits" are not exactly correct and was able to make an informed purchase with correct parts.

 

[123.DieselBenz]

Tip Curtis also sells a bunch of guns in the white

 

[Mickc01]

I have a rifle from Sitting Fox. It is very much what I asked for, with very decent fit and finish. And I would be happy with it except for one thing, the darn lock absolutely will not spark. Right after getting it, when I asked Ray about taking a look at the lock his reply was for me to send it back to L&R. Which I'm sure I should do but still haven't done that yet. Right now the rifle is a pretty wall hanger.

I've heard a lot of good things about L&R but I am disappointed with both the response I received from Sitting Fox and the lock. Also just so you guys know, I have been shooting flintlocks for 25 years so I know it's not me.

The moral of this story is, they do make a nice product and I’m not here to bash anyone, but be a little leery of their customer service.

 

[matt denison]

"I'm 48 now, and my intent is to buy myself a really nice 50 caliber BP rifle for my 50th.
On my 45th I bought myself a Kimber 1911."


I like the way you think. :hatsoff:

 

[KentuckyTAL]

I'm 48 now, and my intent is to buy myself a really nice 50 caliber BP rifle for my 50th.

Since you have some time to play with...
Have you considered having a custom rifle built just the way you want it? Most good custom builders have a year or more waiting list. Most good custom builders can and will help you out with the getting it right part too, they have done the research. It will cost more but many builders will accept partial payments while you are waiting. There are several who are members here on the forum. Something else to think about. :hmm:

Jethro,
That makes good sense.
Who are some of the custom gun makers I should look at, and do they have websites?
Thanks,
Tim

 

[KentuckyTAL]

"I'm 48 now, and my intent is to buy myself a really nice 50 caliber BP rifle for my 50th.
On my 45th I bought myself a Kimber 1911."


I like the way you think. :hatsoff:

laffindog,
I was thinking about a 50 cal Barrett for my 50th, but I can't see myself putting $3500+ into a rifle, and then another $1000+ for optics.
Plus there are limited places a 50 cal Barrett can be shot.
A 50 cal BP rifle, that's a whole other story.
Tim

 

[Vaino]

For a "southern LR". I'd only settle for a Chambers' Late Ketland...lifetime warranty, they're PC, it's fast and it sparks well. Probably not much more than an L&R, if anything....Fred

 

[flintlock75]

I purchased a custom Jaeger rifle from Siting Fox 3 years ago and have been very happy with it. It was made to my specifications vs a stock kit. I have not had any problems with it and took a Caribou with it last year, It has a CM4 maple stock, 28" .54cal green mountain barrel and a Twigg lock, i have several flinters and this is by far the fastest lock i have ever fired. Ray does a good job, but as said previuosly research what you want before you buy.

 

[Old Salt]

Quite a few years back I bought a boys rifle kit from Ray. Overall the kit went together as well as I could build it. It was my second parts set project. The underlugs were soldered to the barrel and the stock was mostly preinlet for the barrel. I requested the small Queen Anne pistol lock and I inlet the lock.

The barrel was a CVA barrel that Ray had turned octagon to round with the idea of making a light rifle for a boy. Once I worked out a few problems with the CVA breech I felt I had a nice rifle at a good price. My son went on to shoot some good scores with that rifle.

I carry it from time to time on a mid winter woodswalk when I am wearing a heavy jacket. It shoots as well as I can hold it.

 

[Big John]

I have heard good things regarding Siting Fox, and told a friend who had a Lancaster made. Rifle got to him with triggers hiting the trigger guard (couldn't be pulled), a big scratch on the false damascus barel and lock malfunctioning all which we repaired.

 

[KentuckyTAL]

For a "southern LR". I'd only settle for a Chambers' Late Ketland...lifetime warranty, they're PC, it's fast and it sparks well. Probably not much more than an L&R, if anything....Fred

flehto
Would that be a "Mark Silver - Virginia Rifle"?

 

[J.W.Neely]

I purchased a rifle from him about 4 years ago, it was already built and is still posted on his web page.

It shoots great and have not had any problems.
http://www.sittingfoxmuzzleloaders.com/Finished_Guns/12/F23 50 Cal Flint Southern Mtn.htm

 

[bonron]

:idunno: I had a very bad experience with Sitting Fox. I strongly suggest you have a hands on look at the rifle you want before you pay for it.