Do you have any idea what proofing a barrel means? I can be reasonably assured that barrel would fail with a proof load.thats right..proof is in the pudding
Do you have any idea what proofing a barrel means? I can be reasonably assured that barrel would fail with a proof load.thats right..proof is in the pudding
Would really like to hear your plan for proofing the breech plug and barrel welded assembly
I like pudding, but still curious how you plan to proof this barrel, as any expert barrel maker such as yourself would do?thats right..proof is in the pudding
ADVICE IS NOT tech.Theres no way this would not work,,having done closed pressured systems with higher pressures.quarter the thickness is absolutely not what you said above. You are going to do what you do regardless of advice here. If and when it blows up, if someone other than yourself is injured. You were warned and proceeded anyway. As I recall the criminal prosecutor need only prove wanton disregard of accepted safety standards..
16 thousand pounds if it was a closed system before it ruptured...comon ,,were not talking nuclearI like pudding, but still curious how you plan to proof this barrel, as any expert barrel maker such as yourself would do?
the barrels ive seen from track of the wolf are thin ..i have a damascus sxs thats b.p. it shoots fine..there was no proof..COMON WERE NOT TALKING NUCLEAR EXPLOSIONS..its a open system..16 tDo you have any idea what proofing a barrel means? I can be reasonably assured that barrel would fail with a proof load.
ELDS DONT BREAK IF DONE OPEN ROOT AND 100% penetration..the iranian mine the roberts crusier hit in the persion gulf not 1 weld broke.Done by confident capable weldersThere are many things we do to make a rifle similar to an original of one hundred fifty years and much older. We do not necessarily use hammer forged iron barrels, we use modern made steel barrels much cheaper, and stronger.
We have learned not to weld barrels, as this causes stresses to the steel at the place of welding.
If we wish to attach some piece to the side of the barrel ( like a sight, or a lug ) we silver solder.
There are well founded reasons for these actions, and we don't stray for safety and common sense.
You guys can tell me NOT to put my finger in a loaded rat trap, or look down a canon barrel that has the fuse lit...............and I take your word for it.
To argue with you is without doubt foolish.
I have made quite a number of muzzle loaders, flint and percussion, and always safety is the main concern of the making of these guns.
We never know who is going to shoot these guns in the future. We know they are rated for black powder or a synthetic black powder ( MAYBE !!!!??? )
Every year we hear and see where some ***** loaded up a muzzle loader, even with a mild load of smokeless powder and an unfortunate situation came to be.
Even though someone on the internet said it was safe to do so.
Well sir, weld up the breech plug and give it to your son or daughter, and let them shoot it. I hope all goes well.
Because that is what is going to happen sooner or later. Someone's son or daughter is going to shoot that bomb, people like you will have a bewildered look on their face, and say it should not have happened.
Take pictures, so we all can learn. BUT don't say you didn't know.
the rusted out threads from 1800 english piece of junks ok..but a scedula 40 pipe 3/16 thick is dangerous..because its not half that thickness from a catalog company..lolADVICE IS NOT tech.Theres no way this would not work,,having done closed pressured systems with higher pressures.
16 thousand pounds if it was a closed system before it ruptured...comon ,,were not talking nuclear
the barrels ive seen from track of the wolf are thin ..i have a damascus sxs thats b.p. it shoots fine..there was no proof..COMON WERE NOT TALKING NUCLEAR EXPLOSIONS..its a open system..16 t
ELDS DONT BREAK IF DONE OPEN ROOT AND 100% penetration..the iranian mine the roberts crusier hit in the persion gulf not 1 weld broke.Done by confident capable welders
buts it ok to shoot crappy damascus barrels with b.p.?
The 2nd "Lyman Black Powder Handbook and Loading Manual" lists the pressure for a 12 gauge smoothbore using 96 grains of 2fg GOEX firing a 1 1/4 ounce load of shot as 4,300 psi. This is an impulse pressure indication. It is certainly not justification for @hunter thompson's welded up smoothbore pipe bomb.
by the way, rifle pressures in excess of 10,000 psi are also noted.
Maybe if he keeps his loading to Elephant brand powder as that load was recorded as 2,400 psi.
I too think this thread should be closed.
I think the OP is going to do what he wants despite conventional and sound practices. We're arguing with a possum at this point.
.IAM building a smoothbore 3/4 schedual 40 stainless barrel and am putting a hooked breech plug into the the barrel,filling in the void with a bushing to take up the play that was tig-welded around the hooked breech threads.Now i was thinking to create a tighter fill in ..Would silver solder....not plumbers solder be strong enough?
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