Some old percussions

[OldSmoky1967]

I bought these at an auction a while back. Made around 1840-1850 in Augsburg, Germany by Johannes Mond. The ramrod is horn tipped and the trigger guard appears to be ebony wood. Maker's name and city are engraved in gold on top of barrel. Two pistols by same maker, rifled barrels, same markings, plus early type platinum pressure relief disks below the nipple on the lock. And, they are numbered 1 & 2. One of the pistols has more wear on it. Possibly it was the carry gun or stored in a box for ready deployment. Does anyone know anything about the maker?

 

[OldSmoky1967]

I forgot to add, double barrel 20 guage. Very light and pointable, easy to hold and shoot!

 

[hanshi]

Extremely impressive and in fine shape too.

 

[Mtman725]

That's a fine old SXS if you need someone to take it for a walk behind two fine pointers just let me know. And no charge!

 

[3Setters]

What is the barrel length on that 20 sxs? Looks like 30 inch or shorter.

 

[OldSmoky1967]

Extremely impressive and in fine shape too.

Thanks you. Good shooters, all!

 

[OldSmoky1967]

What is the barrel length on that 20 sxs? Looks like 30 inch or shorter.

26"

 

[3Setters]

Surprised to see barrels that short. How well does is balance and swing?

 

[toot]

you did real good!

 

[moose23]

Very nice!!

 

[Cherrybow]

Very nice! Thats a SWEET pair of pistols! You have done well.

 

[jimhallam]

I bought these at an auction a while back. Made around 1840-1850 in Augsburg, Germany by Johannes Mond. The ramrod is horn tipped and the trigger guard appears to be ebony wood. Maker's name and city are engraved in gold on top of barrel. Two pistols by same maker, rifled barrels, same markings, plus early type platinum pressure relief disks below the nipple on the lock. And, they are numbered 1 & 2. One of the pistols has more wear on it. Possibly it was the carry gun or stored in a box for ready deployment. Does anyone know anything about the maker?View attachment 119174View attachment 119175View attachment 119174

Interesting to see that Herr Mond used back-action locks for the long gun but not for the pistols. As they were stocked in typical South German style, shot standing along the "line of fire" with a bent arm with the upper part supported against the ribcage there would have been a massive technical problem. He was obviously a PRACTICAL gunmaker.
One thought about the stance used is that IF they were used in a duel the opponent was presented with a narrower target AND the firer's arm gave some added protection to the vital organs.

 

[PathfinderNC]

Interesting to see that Herr Mond used back-action locks for the long gun but not for the pistols. As they were stocked in typical South German style, shot standing along the "line of fire" with a bent arm with the upper part supported against the ribcage there would have been a massive technical problem. He was obviously a PRACTICAL gunmaker.
One thought about the stance used is that IF they were used in a duel the opponent was presented with a narrower target AND the firer's arm gave some added protection to the vital organs.

That’s a shotgun. Not fired with an arm supported against the rib cage.
It’s a lovely set and congratulations!
It looks like the barrel wedges on the pistols hasn’t an estucheon (sp) plate? First time seeing that.

 

[Grenadier1758]

Deringer rifles often have a wedge and no escutcheon. The 1803 Harper's Ferry Rifle also does not have
escutcheons around the wedge slot.

 

[OldSmoky1967]

Surprised to see barrels that short. How well does is balance and swing?

Beautifully!

 

[OldSmoky1967]

Interesting to see that Herr Mond used back-action locks for the long gun but not for the pistols. As they were stocked in typical South German style, shot standing along the "line of fire" with a bent arm with the upper part supported against the ribcage there would have been a massive technical problem. He was obviously a PRACTICAL gunmaker.
One thought about the stance used is that IF they were used in a duel the opponent was presented with a narrower target AND the firer's arm gave some added protection to the vital organs.

The same has occurred to me. Good observation.