Springfield maybe?

[Bubba45]

I thinks it's a springfield ?

Had it a while and thought I'd fix it up. It needs a hammer and screw plus a tang screw/bolt.Smoothbore measures .69.
Help identifying appreciated.

 

[Conquerordie]

It appears to be a parts gun. The stock is a M1855-M1863 profile, as is the lock plate, but it appears to have no markings anywhere. That's odd. The barrel should be .58 Cal rifled. They did bore them smooth after the war when sold off a surplus, maybe that's why it's smoothbore. I say it's a parts gun cause it has not sling swivel mounted on the trigger guard. If it was ever military issues it would have had one. Best of luck with the project.

 

[hawkeye2]

The lockplate is flush with the stock and lacks a bevel around the edge which it should have and it would be inleted only to the edge of the bevel. That guard bow never had provision for a sling swivel and if the lug were ground off it would be obvious. The breech looks similar to a 55 or 61 but it isn't possible to bore out a .58 to a .69.

 

[Clark Badgett]

The lockplate is flush with the stock and lacks a bevel around the edge which it should have and it would be inleted only to the edge of the bevel. That guard bow never had provision for a sling swivel and if the lug were ground off it would be obvious. The breech looks similar to a 55 or 61 but it isn't possible to bore out a .58 to a .69.

It’s totally possible to bore the .58 barrel to .69 smooth especially if the barrel was cut back to typical shotgun barrel lengths of the 1870s. Safety was of little concern then. I’ve seen some scarily thin barrel walls on old muskets, both intact and modified.

 

[rmark]

I suspect a parts gun, it looks like a later trapdoor lock plate, maybe a trapdoor Springfield stock with a muzzle loading barrel.
https://www.ssfirearms.com/proddetail.asp?prod=W15534&cat=94

 

[Clark Badgett]

I suspect a parts gun, it looks like a later trapdoor lock plate, maybe a trapdoor Springfield stock with a muzzle loading barrel.
https://www.ssfirearms.com/proddetail.asp?prod=W15534&cat=94

It’s not an Arsenal lockplate. Yes, it’s most likely a parts gun.

 

[Bubba45]

It’s not an Arsenal lockplate. Yes, it’s most likely a parts gun.

Any ideas as to what model /manufacture it is ? I'd like to make it functional .

 

[Clark Badgett]

Any ideas as to what model /manufacture it is ? I'd like to make it functional .

Privately made copy. Big surplus dealers of the era were known to do such.

 

[bpd303]

Have you had the barrel out of the stock to check for proof marks on the underside?

Dixie Gun Works imported Belgian smooth bores and sold them as trade guns made for the African trade. The ones I have seen in old catalogs did have military stocks.

Also Bannerman's Armory sold military parts guns back in the day, guaranteed to be complete just needed assembling. If memory serves me they were listed for $4.95 plus shipping.