I was a real big deer hunter for a few years, i would use portables and a lot of them I would have 25 to 35 feet in the air. I turned 40 and one of the things I noticed is it is hard to pu those stands up now, I also just seem to have lost a lot of interest in the whole deal with people and stuff. so the last 3 or 4 years with getting into flintocks i have a new interest but still dont like hanging those stands. I think I will try the ground more and when I find good funnels and stuff try the ladder stands