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I'm coming up with several questions as I explore a trad muzzle loader...

This weekend I shouldered a couple T/C renegades. I noticed that when I laid my head on the stock to sight down the barrel, I seemed to have to press my face into the stock quite far to get front blade to drop into the rear sight. every other gun I've had to do this with has beat the tar outta my cheek.

Now, I've been around guns, and done a lot of trap shooting, and rifle plinking. Am I missing something here, or is this just the way a trad gun stock is made, with not a lot of drop?

Thanks again!

Brian
 
yer problem is pretty common with Thompson hawkens & renegades as they don't have enough drop at the heal. a lot of folks rasp down the comb to fix the problem. others put their parts in the precarved stocks such as track of the wolf, pecitonica & others sell as they have lots more drop.
 
You have found one of the common criticisms of the "modern" factory cranked out versions of "traditional" rifles.

No, the originals are not like that. Most are like a natural appendage when you have them shouldered.

You need to "throw up" a custom or semi-custom long rifle recreation of an original to get an appreciation of how well they "fit".
 
Pictured below is a revamped TC Hawken which formerly was a real "cheek slapper" and was nearly unshootable for me.

As can be seen, the entire butt stock has been thinned down, especially the cheek side and the drop of the comb has been increased as much as the buttplate return would allow.

This rifle is now comfortable to shoot from the bench and any other position w/ big loads and has in fact shot 7 elk by 3 different hunters {it's our elk camp "loaner" for first time elk hunters}.

Why many factory MLers are designed to be uncomfortable to shoot...don't have a clue. People keep on buying them and actually develop bad shooting habits due to their faulty stock design....Fred

 
That's interesting. I've actually never shouldered such an awkward piece. I brought it up several times thinking maybe I screwed up somehow with the shop helper looking over my shoulder, but no, it really seemed to fit that way... Strange indeed.

There seems no need to make a gun so uncomfortable.

B
 
Maybe you should wait,
Look around the gun shops for a Lyman Great Plains Rifle.
For many of us one or the other fit's better

The TC Hawken fit's me OK, The Renegade better.
The Great Plains will not fit me..
And it's the other way around for many here
 

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