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Sulfur in Pyrodex?
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Yes!The basic formula is quite simular to real BP.Some claim it to be more corrosive than BP,But to me they act about the same.They may have changed the formula from when it first hit the market ,but I don't think so.The crud tends to stay a little softer,and some claim it disolves better when cleaning with water,here again I've not noticed a great difference.I prefer real BP,but it's not always available in small lots(1 or 2 cns at a time). The kindling temp.of Pyrodex is 700+degrees F.Black Powder bout 480 degrees F.This is the reason it dosn't work well in Flinters.Some folks put about 10grns.of real BP downbore and inthe pan and the remainder of the charge in[url] Pyrodex.In[/url] caplocks (Pyrodex) it has worked fine for me.There are some caplocks that don't handle Pyrodex well without cleaning the nipple and or flame channel every shot or two.Hope this is of some value to You. :front:
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I like the APP. Very clean and seems to works as well as the others. Their granulation seems a bit coarse tho. The 2F seems like road gravel and I have a hard time getting it into and out of the horn. Otherwise I prefer it because of the clean up. Usually only 2 or 3 patches down the barrel with hot h20, bingo, you're done.
I've never used any BP but Goex,not because I wouldn't,just hasn't been available to me.Someone else will give You the rundown on APP and the other BPs.on the market.Do You have an outlet in Your area that handles real BP?I live in far West Texas when not in Florida,(Big Bend area).Have to go to N.M. or ElPaso to purchase BP.Pyrodex is the only thing offered close by.I may be wrong but isn't APP a substitute BP? If it's the one I think it is it went under a different name or two.The one I'm thinking of had a bad reputation,don't know if it's the same one.Real BP is the way to go if it's available. :front:
I had a pound of American Pioneer poder given to me at the 2004 spring shoot at friendship.I was given to me by one of the reps who was to evaluate it. He shoots only flint and had limited sucess with it going off. I used it in my 12ga double gun on the quail walk and found it to be very erratic. I gave about 1/2 the can to a guy that used it in his bp cart. guns and he said it worked real well for him. I later read that you have to compress the load and I may not of been getting that done to the extent that it reqired to work properly. Just my 2 cents
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"...I think it used to go by the name of Clean shot..." which was similar to a powder known as Grand Canyon I believe.
A guy at the range gave me 2 pounds of Grand Canyon about 8 years ago. I thought it was very nice of him, until I tried it out.
It was very consistant. Unfortunatly, its consistency was being very inconsistent. Folks found it was best when it was crushed in cartridges but there was no way to get enough crush on it in a muzzleloader.
I let it sit on a shelf for several years and it turned into a large lump. Being unusable, I burned it in my back yard. It didn't even burn very well.
Back to the sulpher in Pyrodex. IMO, it is added to produce good smelling smoke and perhaps retard the speed that the basic powder burns at.
Nothing like the smell of Black Powder in the morning, Ah says. ::
A guy at the range gave me 2 pounds of Grand Canyon about 8 years ago. I thought it was very nice of him, until I tried it out.
It was very consistant. Unfortunatly, its consistency was being very inconsistent. Folks found it was best when it was crushed in cartridges but there was no way to get enough crush on it in a muzzleloader.
I let it sit on a shelf for several years and it turned into a large lump. Being unusable, I burned it in my back yard. It didn't even burn very well.
Back to the sulpher in Pyrodex. IMO, it is added to produce good smelling smoke and perhaps retard the speed that the basic powder burns at.
Nothing like the smell of Black Powder in the morning, Ah says. ::
Gordy,
APP used to be called Clean Shot. It does not contain sulfur and when I shot with it a couple of weeks ago it cleaned up very easily--much more so than Pyrodex.
I work in San Antonio, TX and as far as I know there is only one dealer in the city who handles real BP. I was able to buy a can of the real stuff from a shooting buddy and am going to work up loads with the BP and the APP and see how they compare.
The fellow I bought the BP from shoots only 777 now and swears by it--gets excellent accuracy and he says clean-up is a snap using just water.
Jerry
APP used to be called Clean Shot. It does not contain sulfur and when I shot with it a couple of weeks ago it cleaned up very easily--much more so than Pyrodex.
I work in San Antonio, TX and as far as I know there is only one dealer in the city who handles real BP. I was able to buy a can of the real stuff from a shooting buddy and am going to work up loads with the BP and the APP and see how they compare.
The fellow I bought the BP from shoots only 777 now and swears by it--gets excellent accuracy and he says clean-up is a snap using just water.
Jerry
Clean up is a snap using just water with real BP too. :front:
A littel Crystal White dish soap in the warm water works fine for removing lubes.
Thanks for the input.I ran across a small gun dealer here in Fla.about 2 years ago that was trying to sell off the "Clean Shot" He had left.I was tempted,but when I examined a can it was a solid block.I think this was about the time it went under as "Clean Shot". :front:
