Swedish 1845-54 rifle

[Mathias]

Went down to a friend who is a gunsmith to give it a good examination and it seems i have had some good luck becuse the barell was in wery good condition exept a small dent which we don't think will be harmfull (fingers crossed). So now it was of in serch for a bulletmould , not the easyiest thing to do i might add. In the end i orderd a .69 730gr mine from lyman even if i have a strong suspicion that it will be slightly to small and will end up paperpatched. Can't wait to shoot it :grin:

 

[jdstrang]

Give the minie a chance. I have yet to see a minie that doesn't come out a thousandth or so over the advertised size - some considerably more.

And, while the optimal size is 1 or 2 thousandths under bore, I've seen very good results with balls as much as 4 or 5 thousandths undersized IF the lead is dead soft. The CW government ammo was often severely undersized, yet was serviceable even for those fellows who came to the service knowing how to shoot.

 

[arquebus]

Do you have any photos of the rifle-musket? Would be very interested to see some pictures of it!

 

[pepperbelly]

Is it a Vetterli?

Jim

 

[Russ T Frizzen]

Wasn't the Vetterli Swiss?

 

[Mathias]

Hi pappa bear
I will try it and hope it will work out nicely, but as i have noticed things in my life don't always do that.Anyway the originl bullet was .695 (or so they say) 772gr over 95gr bp. I figuerd i could use some grindingpaste and a drill to enlarge the mould some.

 

[Mathias]

Hi

I am working on the picatures it's only that my computor and i don't always see eye to eye :grin: It is most probably made in sweden,(by Husqvarna or Carl Gusaf) in 1845 it was decided to adopt the mine system and the result was that they took the old 1840 musket and cut grooves in them, resulting in transition rifle 1845-54.
And yes Veterlli was made in swiss

 

[jdstrang]

Hi pappa bear
the originl bullet was .695 (or so they say) 772gr over 95gr bp...

Owwwwch! :surrender:

Were this my load development endeavor, I think I'd start around 50 grains and work up slowly, stopping as soon as the group tightened. One of the best rifled '42 shooters I know uses a Rapine semi-wadbutter bullet of about 500 grains over 55 grains of 3. Works way well for him.

 

[Mathias]

Well the book i got the load from did say that the rifle had a strong recoil :grin: . If a can get around whit a lesser charge i will most certinely do that. But i think that the bullet will need a good bumping to engage the rifeling but 50gr sounds as a good start. By the way there are some picatures in the foto section.

 

[arquebus]

Math said:

i think that the bullet will need a good bumping to engage the rifeling

Possibly, but I'll think you'll find a Minie of that weight is going to provide enough resistance by itself to allow enough pressure to generate. I use a 612gn Minie in a .58 & use 55gns of 3Fg, though others I know use as little as 40-45gns of 3Fg with the same bullet....though I think some of them have made the skirt a bit thinner.

 

[pepperbelly]

Wasn't the Vetterli Swiss?

Oh yeah. I have collected C&R rifles for a few years now and knew that. Just ignore my random brain farts. They don't happen too often- that I can remember anyway. :grin:

Jim