T/c cracked stock

[boker]

I recently pick up a .54 cal new englander . The stock is crack starting at the rear of the barrel running 3 inches back on the opposite side of the hammer . Will this cause any major trouble / is it safe to shoot ??

 

[gunner69skmc]

You can always visit ebay and see what they have. Maybe even gunbroker? Good Luck :stir:

 

[excess650]

The location of the crack you describe seems to be common on the NE, and WMC. It may be a function of how the grain runs through that area combined with the holes for the lock and tang.

My suggestion would be to repair with accraglass if your stock is nice.

 

[Rifleman1776]

Unlikely the factory made rifles have their wood selected and fitted for proper grain orienatation as you would get with a custom.
Depending on the crack, it is probably repairable. Hard to advise without seeing.
hotoSmile:

 

[J.G. Terry]

I have had T/C replace cracked stocks on rifles. These were factory finished guns. I have had stocks patched on second hand kit guns with similar cracks and have had years of use. Might do well to contact maker. This was done prior to the recent sale of the company.

 

[Bugflipper]

Would advise contacting them only and not shipping a gun to T/C they have been screwing folks over lately, refusing to repair, sending a meek check and refusing to send the gun back. They don't make anymore traditional items at all. I've seen several stories where the check sent was 3-400 under market value. Of coarse not honoring their lifetime warrantee either, unless you call getting a very undervalued check as a lifetime warrantee.

I have 2 of them with cracked stocks. Just repaired them and continue to fire with no issues.

 

[ny griz]

I have one with a 2" crack the same as your's never had a problem with it.It gets shot a lot.Griz

 

[Billnpatti]

It is safe to shoot and it is reparable with some carpenters yellow waterproof glue. If you want to spend the money on a replacement stock, you can buy one from Track of The Wolf http://www.trackofthewolf.com/List/Item.aspx/906/2 or from Pecatonica http://www.longrifles-pr.com/stockscomponents.shtml.

There are others who carry replacement stocks for Hawken style rifles but not all will fit the T/C parts.

Quite often this cracking is due to people overloading the gun with something like 120 of powder and a Maxiball. There is noting on the American continent that you would be hunting with a .50 caliber rifle that needs that kind of load. A plain old patched roundball with a maximum charge of 80 grains of powder will take down anything up to deer size within 100 yards. It is a rifle not a shoulder cannon so those huge charges are just ridiculous and not needed for anything.

 

[M. De Land]

I'd repair it. If they would relieve the pressure points and glass bed the tang and lock mortice area from the factory, this stuff would mostly stop happening. Same deal on the Patriot pistol.
But Noooooooooooo,it cost to much or it's not traditional!Bet it's cheaper than a replacement stock and postage. :rotf: Mike D.

 

[Rifleman1776]

they have been screwing folks over lately, refusing to repair, sending a meek check and refusing to send the gun back

You know this for a fact? How?
BTW, what is a "meek check"?

 

[boker]

Thanks , the bore isn't perfect . So I don't want to send money on a replacement stock.

 

[necchi]

sending a meek check and refusing to send the gun back,,
I've seen several stories where the check sent was 3-400 under market value. Of coarse not honoring their lifetime warrantee either, unless you call getting a very undervalued check as a lifetime warrantee.

Yeah, I take issue with that too, where is the info for that knowledge?
Does this come from that "other" forum too?

Cause if that's true, I can find $75 worth of trashed TC parts and send in for a $300-400 check in a heart beat!

This is how the stories start! next thing you know it's all over the only true source of knowledge,, The WWW

 

[Bugflipper]

As for not fact I have read some stories online where folks have sent in their gun and get a very low sum compared to actual market value. This is after the custom shop was closed which handled repairs on the traditionals. I heard that S&W bought out their tooling, so that may be interesting in the future if it comes to be fact.

As for fact I am currently going round and round with them over a Cherokee stock. It has a crack. It's just a 36 so no over pressure loads. My hunting load is 20 grains, target plinking is 15. They want the whole gun shipped for evaluation, I've supplied pictures of the stock. I will not send my gun in for a $125 check. When it would be much more to replace it. They do not have any to fit it nor do they have the ability to make one since they closed down the custom shop. So in other words they can not honor a warranty for the item that has or at least had a lifetime warranty. I don't believe that the small amount of money is covering the warranty either.

 

[Davemuzz]

Well”¦”¦my T\C buy a stock from gun broker went this way. I updated my original T\C via a new GM barrel that was much more accurate than the factory. Then I picked up a original T\C lock, furniture, trigger and "stuff" (all but the stock) for next to nothing. So, I needed a stock.

I bought one on GB for a fair price. (This was several years ago, so don't ask me what I paid for it). I got the stock, took a quick look at it, sat it in the corner and about a year later decided to assemble the rifle. Well”¦.to my surprise, as I was assembling the rifle, it was then that I noticed (I think) it was at least 4 major cracks in the stock. Two tight thru the wrist and another two under the lock.

Man”¦.was I upset as the seller assured me the stock was in "top notch" shape!! Buyer beware!!

So, I took a hypodermic needle, some Elmers wood glue, mixed the glue about 50\50 with warm water, and shot that stuff (I would twist the stock to open the cracks up) into the cracks until it ran out of places I didn't know existed!! I then took large rubber bands, wrapped up the stock for a few days”¦.or maybe 3 or 4 as I was in no hurry. I took off the rubber bands, sanded off the excess, true oiled the finish, put the rifle together and made about 50 to 75 shots with it. The stock held up fine.

I ended up selling the rifle on GunBroker (with full disclosure of the cracked stock and my fix of it) and the guy I sold it to must have been happy as I never heard from him again.

Dave

 

[bubba.50]

the only side-hammer guns t/c has made in the last 15 or 20 years is the hawken & the firestorm. they might could send ya a nice shiny black plastic firestorm stock to put on it :rotf: .