T/c hawken

[navaho]

I am starting to think about replacing my T/C Hawken stock. Been ther,done that but I am thinking about this. The two screws that hold the tang in. One is a wood screw, the other screws into the trigger guard. Instead of doing this, I am thinking of replacing both screws with wood screws. One standard for the back, but a much longer one for the front. I know the idea for the front screwing into the trigger guard is to strengthen the wrist part of the stock, but woodn't a very long wood screw do the same?

 

[lonewolf5347]

Funny thing came to mind when I read your post ,I just pick up a early 45 t/c hawkens and it had the set-up you are talking about short wood screw in the back of the tamg and a longer one on the front hole.I just redone the whole gun and glass-beding the tang.I never had any problems with the stocks with the wood screws and have 3 t/c this way. :thumbsup:

 

[roundball]

I know the idea for the front screwing into the trigger guard is to strengthen the wrist part of the stock, but woodn't a very long wood screw do the same?

Not in my opinion, it wouldn't...and I think the real affirmation of that is what TC elected to do...if their engineering department could have achieved the same strength by simply using a longer wood screw, don't you think thay would have, instead of redesigning the trigger plate, trigger guard, and adding more manufacturing steps to through-drill the stock for the long tang bolt, drilling the front tang hole larger to accept the new tang bolt, etc.

I personally like the older TC Hawken stocks and have picked up several over the years to replace newer stocks I had...they all have the old style wood screw design and I've converted about half of them to the stronger components myself...have some extra new style trigger plates on hand to convert some more after hunting season is over.

 

[Goldhunter]

Interesting. My T/C Hawken is old (K306###) and it only has two wood screws. At least I think it is the old style. It was a kit when I aquired it (1989ish) and that was it, two wood screws. I am wondering I need to replace the one with a bolt that goes into the trigger guard.

 

[hobbles]

Afternoon Goldhunter
I had the old style stock and my POI went south on me after a while, I acquired a crack behind the hammer on the stock, I sent it to T/C and they replaced it and all the hardware on it for free, Now my POI is back and gettin better,, But the old style stock was a lil longer then the new ones, I did like the feel of the old one better,,,

 

[Goldhunter]

I got rid of the stock, I have a new one now. Just wondering about this bolt vs wood screw thing that Navaho brought up.

 

[navaho]

Not sure why T/C would have done it that way. Yes it is true they redesigned the tang screw but I also understand product liability. Sometimes you go over what is needed so that you don't run the chance of something happpening down the road.

 

[roundball]

Not sure why T/C would have done it that way. Yes it is true they redesigned the tang screw but I also understand product liability. Sometimes you go over what is needed so that you don't run the chance of something happpening down the road.

I'm sorry if I didn't state the obvious, assumed you knew, etc...TC Hawkens had a chronic problem of developing a split in the wood on the side opposite the lock...I've had two of mine do that myself...one they were able to match up and replace with a stock having the same LOP, the other I had them return and I fixed it myself to keep the stocki with longer LOP.

So much wood is removed in the central area of the stock to accommodate the triggers & lock mechanisms that the stocks are borderline too weak in that area...IMO, using a simple wood screw am inch longer is just a bandaide wish & a prayer that I personally don't view as a reliable fix.

What TC they did was engineer a comprehensive strengthening solution, didn't go overboard at all...my goal is to upgrade all the rest of mine BEFORE they split...they are all the early style stock with longer LOP and more drop...no more replacements like them available if they split.

Least expensive upgrade approach:
1) Get new style tang bolt, trigger plate, and front trigger return spring from TC (about $15)
2) Drill out front tang hole larger with a 1/4" drill bit;
3) Transfer required components from old trigger plate to new one;
4) Mount trigger plate and mark the wood through the trigger plate hole that the bolt will be passing through;
5) Through-drill the stock for the new tang bolt to pass using the 'trigger plate mark' just made on the wood as a reference;
6) Mark, drill, tap trigger guard to accept new tang bolt;

 

[Pork Chop]

Hey Roundball,

Why don't you show a photo of the old style stock and the new style stock side by side so that those of us that don't know can learn?