T/C or Greenmountain Percussion Barrel?

[catman]

I don't know who you talked to, but go here http://www.tcarms.com/firearms/chart_muzzleloaders.php and look it up yourself. I bought a New 50 cal. 1 in 66 barrel for my TC Hawken two months ago and it has deep Rifleing. And it is a tack driver. My shooting buddy has a GM Barrel in his Renegade and my TC Barrel si just as accurate as his GM. And that's with him shooting both Rifles. And I might add that he is a very good shot.

About the 2 to 4 weeks. That is what she told me too. I received my barrel in 10 days.

Robert

Thanks, I hope mine will have the deep rifling also. I may have talked to the wrong person that would know for sure.

 

Another plus to the GM barrel is they load easier with a tight patch/ball combo than TC does....again let me state that I like TC barrels and there products and own them now as well as GM drop in barrels...for roundball accuracy go with the GM....

 

I have never see a TC barrel that shot as good as or better than a GM barrel....not that TCs are bad they just wont shoot with a GM...period

Just to clarify a point for many who might not know, a major problem with the vast majority of people who compare a GM barrel to a TC barrel is that its comparing apples and oranges.

The typical TC that somebody buys has a shallow groove barrel on it so it'll shoot both conicals and PRBs...a compromise barrel if you will. Then the TC owner might buy a GM barrel which happens to be a deeper groove round ball barrel because that's what they make, find that it shoots PRBs more accurately than the shallow groove TC barrel, and draw the conclusion / make the claim that GM barrels are more accurate than TC barrels as an across the board statement...but its apples and oranges.

You can tell just by reading posts on forums year after year...had a couple more right here this week...that practically nobody knew or knows that TC even made deep groove 1:66" round ball barrels.
I have TC round ball barrels in .45/.50/.54cals and GM round ball barrels in .40/.58/.62cals because TC didn't make them in those calibers...no difference in accuracy when comparing apples to apples.

And this is really my only hobby that I spend my pennies in so rest assured if TCs round ball barrels weren't very accurate I wouldn't waste my time with them, and every barrel in the house would be a GM round ball barrel instead.

Were talking GM vs TC when shooting roundballs here,correct? Every GM barrel I have shot and owned will win everytime vs a TC...again TC barrels are plenty accurate just not as accurate as a GM.....just look at what the countrys top shooters are using...then you decide

 

[roundball]

I have never see a TC barrel that shot as good as or better than a GM barrel....not that TCs are bad they just wont shoot with a GM...period

Just to clarify a point for many who might not know, a major problem with the vast majority of people who compare a GM barrel to a TC barrel is that its comparing apples and oranges.

The typical TC that somebody buys has a shallow groove barrel on it so it'll shoot both conicals and PRBs...a compromise barrel if you will. Then the TC owner might buy a GM barrel which happens to be a deeper groove round ball barrel because that's what they make, find that it shoots PRBs more accurately than the shallow groove TC barrel, and draw the conclusion / make the claim that GM barrels are more accurate than TC barrels as an across the board statement...but its apples and oranges.

You can tell just by reading posts on forums year after year...had a couple more right here this week...that practically nobody knew or knows that TC even made deep groove 1:66" round ball barrels.
I have TC round ball barrels in .45/.50/.54cals and GM round ball barrels in .40/.58/.62cals because TC didn't make them in those calibers...no difference in accuracy when comparing apples to apples.

And this is really my only hobby that I spend my pennies in so rest assured if TCs round ball barrels weren't very accurate I wouldn't waste my time with them, and every barrel in the house would be a GM round ball barrel instead.

Were talking GM vs TC when shooting roundballs here,correct?

No, I'm talking about round ball "barrels"

I'm talking about the fact that the vast majority of people didn't/don't even know there are T/C round ball barrels so when they compare accuracy from a GM round ball barrel to a standard TC conical/RB barrel and make the claim that GM barrels are more accurate than T/Cs its an apples to oranges conmparison. Its like saying a Remington 700/.30-06 & Leupold scope is more accurate than than a Marlin lever action with open sights, therefore "Remington's are more accurate than Marlins".

Using your own logic reference to "top shooters", the only 'accurate' way to validate such a claim would be if those "top shooters in the country" you refer to had first used T/C "round ball barrels" then replaced them with GM "round ball barrels" in the same caliber and found them more accurate...but I'll bet lunch not a one of them ever used a T/C round ball barrel first and did that.

In that same vein, I've never known anyone, or in 10 years have never seen a post from anyone, who had bought a T/C round ball barrel then set it aside to replace it with the same caliber in a GM barrel due to poor accuracy...I was just making it clear to everyone that such across the board statements have no basis in fact unless they compare apples to apples.

I have a couple of of GM round ball Flint barrels myself... .40cal & .58cal...but only got GM's because T/C doesn't make .40cal & .58cal round ball Flint barrels...

:v

 

I have never see a TC barrel that shot as good as or better than a GM barrel....not that TCs are bad they just wont shoot with a GM...period

Just to clarify a point for many who might not know, a major problem with the vast majority of people who compare a GM barrel to a TC barrel is that its comparing apples and oranges.

The typical TC that somebody buys has a shallow groove barrel on it so it'll shoot both conicals and PRBs...a compromise barrel if you will. Then the TC owner might buy a GM barrel which happens to be a deeper groove round ball barrel because that's what they make, find that it shoots PRBs more accurately than the shallow groove TC barrel, and draw the conclusion / make the claim that GM barrels are more accurate than TC barrels as an across the board statement...but its apples and oranges.

You can tell just by reading posts on forums year after year...had a couple more right here this week...that practically nobody knew or knows that TC even made deep groove 1:66" round ball barrels.
I have TC round ball barrels in .45/.50/.54cals and GM round ball barrels in .40/.58/.62cals because TC didn't make them in those calibers...no difference in accuracy when comparing apples to apples.

And this is really my only hobby that I spend my pennies in so rest assured if TCs round ball barrels weren't very accurate I wouldn't waste my time with them, and every barrel in the house would be a GM round ball barrel instead.

Were talking GM vs TC when shooting roundballs here,correct?

No, I'm talking about round ball "barrels"

I'm talking about the fact that the vast majority of people didn't/don't even know there are T/C round ball barrels so when they compare accuracy from a GM round ball barrel to a standard TC conical/RB barrel and make the claim that GM barrels are more accurate than T/Cs its an apples to oranges conmparison. Its like saying a Remington 700/.30-06 & Leupold scope is more accurate than than a Marlin lever action with open sights, therefore "Remington's are more accurate than Marlins".

Using your own logic reference to "top shooters", the only 'accurate' way to validate such a claim would be if those "top shooters in the country" you refer to had first used T/C "round ball barrels" then replaced them with GM "round ball barrels" in the same caliber and found them more accurate...but I'll bet lunch not a one of them ever used a T/C round ball barrel first and did that.

In that same vein, I've never known anyone, or in 10 years have never seen a post from anyone, who had bought a T/C round ball barrel then set it aside to replace it with the same caliber in a GM barrel due to poor accuracy...I was just making it clear to everyone that such across the board statements have no basis in fact unless they compare apples to apples.

I have a couple of of GM round ball Flint barrels myself... .40cal & .58cal...but only got GM's because T/C doesn't make .40cal & .58cal round ball Flint barrels...

:v

if those "top shooters in the country" you refer to had first used T/C "round ball barrels" then replaced them with GM "round ball barrels" in the same caliber and found them more accurate...but I'll bet lunch not a one of them ever used a T/C round ball barrel first and did that.
....There you go .....

 

[Galen Futtrell]

G/R barrels are definately superior :thumbsup: over T/C down range.

 

[catman]

Got the barrel today and it just dropped in perfect, fit and finish is perfect all around.
Barrel is marked ROUND BALL-TWIST 1:66 and the rifing doesn't come out to the end of the barrel, it has the smooth area in the first inch at the top for loading. I guess things a T/C are different than they use to be RB.

Thanks RB for the lead..

 

[Robert58]

That's interesting. I thought that all of the Round Ball barrel didn't have the QLA bored muzzle. I asked when I ordered mine and told them that I didn't want it. I am sure Roundball will chime in soon. I believe he got one once and returned it for one without the QLA. You may be able to exchange it if you call them.

Robert

 

[catman]

That's interesting. I thought that all of the Round Ball barrel didn't have the QLA bored muzzle. I asked when I ordered mine and told them that I didn't want it. I am sure Roundball will chime in soon. I believe he got one once and returned it for one without the QLA. You may be able to exchange it if you call them.

Robert

I gave T/C a call this morning, I'm sending it back for a None QLA. No charge for shipping it back for the exchange. I talked to Brian very nice and not a problem.

 

[Robert58]

Glad to hear it. I have never done business with any other company that was as customer friendly as Thompson Center.

Robert