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[Walks Alone]

I can date these numbers from when I bought them new:

1979 26XXX-----------Renegade

RDE

WOW! That would put the 4-digit Renegade I picked up last year as being built w-a-y back there.

I'd have to try to find my old records for the serial numbers/years bought on the several 70's and 80's TC's I did buy new but later gave away (all files already packed for a rapidly approaching move to a new home right now though).

Current TC's I still have out of those bought the last few years (but the dates bought have no bearing on when they were made naturally):

101XX Cherokee 32
65XX Renegade with 54 & 12 GA barrels
K1455XX Hawken with 36/45/50 barrels & both locks

The Cherokee and Rengade were virtually NIB and are factory except for the unfired aftermarket 12 GA barrel - the Hawken a package (also bought in like new condition) built from a 50 percussion kit by gunsmith D.F. Everett for his own use in eastern long range competiton shooting. Aftermarket 36 bbl is percussion, 45 is flintlock.

Thanks for the info RDE. :thumbsup:

 

[roundball]

Is the Renegade barrel you refer to a 1:66" round ball barrel? Or the standard 1:48"?

 

[FishDFly]

I have a roundball barrel 1-66" 54 cal which I bought new in 1983 which has a number of 5XXX.

RDE

 

[Toomuch_36]

I have a roundball barrel 1-66" 54 cal which I bought new in 1983 which has a number of 5XXX.

RDE

:hmm: To the best of my knowledge T/C SNs ran consecutively regardless of model. With a SN in the 5000 range it sounds like your Renegade came with one of the older Douglas barrels from the 60s. Or maybe it was NIB from the dealers "old stock".

Toomuch
...........
Shoot Flint

 

[Deadeye]

I bought a new Renegade in , I believe , 1971 could have been 1972.
serial # 15807. .54, 1/48, still have, it still shoots good.

 

[roundball]

TC barrels...

Kits kave the letter K in front of the S/N;

1:48" standard barrels are 5 and 6 digit sets of S/Ns numbers;

1:66" round ball barrels have 4 digit S/Ns;

I have 9 TC 1:66" RB barrels, different calibers, some cap, some flint:
2 = 4xxx
4 = 5xxx
4 = 6xxx
1 = 7xxx

All were bought brand new starting in 1990.

 

[FishDFly]

The Renegade from 1979 and barrel number 26XXX came together.

The Roundball barrel from 1983, #5XXX, came from Dixie Arms. I ordered the barrel from them and it was shipped to me. I have no idea of how long they had the barrel.

The barrel is marked Thompson/Center Arms.

My oldest boy shot three (3) 50S with Xs with the barrel as a junior in the Levy Garret Shoots in the early 90s.

Note, I did not say that I did. It took me some time to be able to beat him. The gun has been put up since he quit shooting in 1994.

May be time to get it out.

RDE

 

[Walks Alone]

Is the Renegade barrel you refer to a 1:66" round ball barrel? Or the standard 1:48"?

roundball -

Never checked it roundball, and its packed away for the move now. But based on your post below the 4 digit serial number suggests it's a 1:66 RB barrel doesn't it?

Alot of great information has been posted, but has also left me a bit confused.

You said you think each model had its own serial number range... Toomuch thinks they ran consecutive serial numbers regardless of model. Coin toss?

My known Hawken kit's original barrel does have a "K" serial number... but RE's listed his Renegade kit without a "K" S/N prefix?

toomuch suggested Douglas barrels from the 60's. Anything on these barrels that distinguish them as Douglas, or were all of their barrels made by Douglas at that time?

Any idea what the production years are/were on all the current and discontinued models?

I know, a whole lot of questions and few answers from the clown asking them. But the more members who jump in here and list what they have by date/number, know something for sure, suspect something, etc will soon be quite a good start on finally piecing together some of TC's ML history lost in the fire.

Once I get moved and the old records unpacked again I'll try to find the numbers on the TC Hawken's I bought new in the early 70's, and no longer have.

Anyway, thanks for all your input and suggestions.

WA

 

[bwhoffman]

Walksalone...
To add even more confusion to the fire....
I just finished a hawken from a kit, was missing parts and ordered new from TC. Presumably a 9 to 11 year old kit by dating the paperwork in the box. here are some facts....
1. box that kit came in is numbered "K495XXX"
2. stock, in barrel channel has a "K" ink stamped there and "50" as cal designation.
3. ONLY number on barrel is "495XXX" NO "K"!

Really doesn't matter to me, I like, its a cadillac compared to my cva mt rifle and knowing its a true USA gun makes my proud.

Brett

 

[GreyWhiskers]

For what it's worth, my TC Hawken kit was purchased new in 1976. The barrel is stamped K75XX

GW

 

[roundball]

"...You said you think each model had its own serial number range..."

Actually it's stronger than what I 'think', it's what TC has told me...that there's a range of S/N's assigned to models...ie: Seneca had it's range, Cherokee had it's range, Hawken it's range, Renegade it's range, etc...

I don't know about Douglas barrels from the 60's...TC was formed in '67 and my understanding is that they didn't start making the Renegade and Hawken models until the 70's

 

[Toomuch_36]

"...You said you think each model had its own serial number range..."

Actually it's stronger than what I 'think', it's what TC has told me...that there's a range of S/N's assigned to models...ie: Seneca had it's range, Cherokee had it's range, Hawken it's range, Renegade it's range, etc...

I don't know about Douglas barrels from the 60's...TC was formed in '67 and my understanding is that they didn't start making the Renegade and Hawken models until the 70's

The owner of the muzzleloader shop in Muncy where I recieved my training has a T/C Hawken .45 cal. flt. that he bought new in 1967 serial # 24XX.

Toomuch
...........
Shoot Flint

 

[Russ T Frizzen]

All my information indicates that the T/C "Hawken" was first made available in 1970. August 1970 to be precise.

 

[roundball]

All my information indicates that the T/C "Hawken" was first made available in 1970. August 1970 to be precise.

And the special run of Hawken 25th Anniversary models were made in 1995...stamped right on the barrel.

 

[Halftail]

I bought a Rennegade in 1992 ## 351356

 

[FishDFly]

I checked my "Kit" Renegade and found a "K" stamped on the bottom of the breech plug. There is no "K" before or after the serial number.

The barrel channel has some black lettering in it from the factory. The first 2 letters are not readable, the other letters are "NDTCP"

RDE

 

[Walks Alone]

Interesting. The "K" is a prefix of the serial number on mine. Obviously TC didn't stay with a set way to mark their kit guns. So that in itself may be another factor in dating their rifles if enough data is ever accumulated.

Thanks.

 

[roundball]

I'd forgotten about that...the K prefix was first, then changing to the K on the breech plug followed that

 

[Dwarfmeister]

I can't verify the year but as close as I can come is 1983,

Renagade--188XXX

Len :winking:

 

[faw3]

The "Big Guy" said.. "There's a balance between not providing enough categories and trying to be all things to all people. This is the reason we have not added a separate "Hawken" section. As soon as we did, someone would request the next "special" category." And even many 1000s views of 3 different times we lost some fine old people on here, no fault of Cladue's of any other Moderator, we couldnt just stay on pics (my org idea) but went off all over the place. One "Mod" said something to the effect of why does anyone want to talk about these? Really ticking off a more than a few ( no you didnt me, sad as it is I understand you dont have the room and everyone cant be in love with one kind of rifle) and builders bench wont work because youd have to wade thru so much to find "your? intrest. Anyway a lot of us are on AOL and cant go back more than 30 days anyway and some of the best of BB is back away. Haveing no intrest in T/Cs I hadnt looked over this site till tonight so sorry if this is all in the past, But to end this part of each gun haveing a spot, Im sure youv thought of say "plains rifles" and anyone could put new or old or being made in it, as hand guns have one, not by flint or perc. I guess it just cant be done here. And starting another web site is such a pain. Anyway thats my 2 cents , sorry to butt in, Hawken 4 is real and ready but the guys just dont want to play here anymore, and thats a loss for a lot of others even if you dont have one. Fred :hatsoff: