tc new englander

[bowkill]

Hey guyes just bought this gun to hunt with. Sold my encore ml and going to use this.

What do you think of the wood, and what load would be a good place to start with? thanks!!!!!!!!!!! next one will be a flintlock. :grin:

 

[gmww]

Don't they also make a fowler barrel in that model to switch back and forth with? I was considering trying to find one like this just for that versatility. :thumbsup:

 

[bowkill]

I do not know , new to bp shooting. How did you put the cal below your avatar. :v

 

[gmww]

The Cal. below is automatically put there to show how many posts you have participated in I believe.

 

[swquiro]

Bowkill,
How about another pic of the stock, this time with enough light to see the figure clearly? Thanks.

 

[bowkill]

thanks for the reply, I guess i am lucky to be a 32 cal!! :hatsoff:

 

[bowkill]

ok ,back in 5.

 

[bowkill]

 

[swquiro]

Bowkill,
Forgot to provide some of the info you asked for. My .50 NE prints decent groups (1.5") at 50 yards with .490 Hornady ball, .018 bore butter patches, and 80g Goex 2F, off the bench. I arrived at that load rather quickly and didnt try many other combintions. Does a nice job in the deer woods. Id start with 70g and work up from there in 5g increments. Try .015 patches also.
I might add that if you bought the gun used, which I assume is the case, scrub the bore well with Shooters Choice bore cleaning gel to remove any lead that may be lurking down there. My barrel wouldnt perform worth a tinkers damn until I did just that.
Let us know your results.

 

[swquiro]

Wow! Beautiful wood. My NE has some very nice fiddleback, but it takes a backseat to your stock. Great find!

 

[silverfox]

What do I think of the wood. I would of bought that gun just for the wood. Wife likes nice wood and that would pass inspection easy. I could bring that into the house with the only thing said would be let me look at that closer.
Beautiful piece of wood.
Fox :hatsoff:

 

[bowkill]

I have been lurking around here for a week or two and have seen where some people dont like borebutter that well. How about no 13 bore cleaner, what is your thoughts. thanks!! :hmm:

 

[swquiro]

BB works fine for me, but I am sure there are many other lubes that would work fine. Every barrel is an individual and you must experiment to find out what makes your barrel happy. Kinda like courting a new lady. Keep us posted.

 

[nw_hunter]

That is one Fine looking rifle!

 

[mykeal]

I use No. 13 to swab barrel between shots on the range and to clean frame, nipples and other exterior parts after shooting. I use hot soapy water for bore cleaning after shooting. I use Bore Butter after cleaning as a rust preventative - very light film in the bore and also in the chambers on my revolvers. Also use it as a lube on my revolver base pins.

 

[Zonie]

When I bought a used GPR a bottle of TC No 13 Bore Cleaner came with it.

A few weeks later after shooting some of my Cap & Ball pistols I thought I would try it to clean my pistols.
After running a patch wetted with #13 thru the bore a few times, I ran a dry patch thru the bore. It came out rusty.
I thought "well, maybe I didn't get it clean with just one application of #13 so I again ran the wet patch thru the bore followed by a dry patch.
This patch also came out rusty.
I then proceeded to clean the bore with soap and water followed by dry patches. None of them had rust.

Wondering about this, I proceeded to clean another pistol with soap and water followed by dry patches. They did not have any rust on them so I ran a clean patch wetted with #13 thru the already clean bore, counted to 10 and ran a dry patch. It also came out rusty.

I don't know why, perhaps #13 just cleans too well but after it repeatedly caused a surface rust to form within seconds of its use I decided then and there that I would never use the stuff again.

I still have the bottle of it sitting on a shelf. I guess I would throw it away but, as my wife knows, I never throw anything away even if I consider it useless.

As for using it as a patch lube, I wouldn't.
Not only might it cause the same surface rust I was seeing, it doesn't have anything in it to lubricate the patch/bore or to protect it after the shot.
If you want to try a really good patch lube that not only does an excellent job of wiping the bore but also leaves a coating of oil to protect the bore after the shot, buy yourself some Castor Oil, Alcohol, Witch Hazel, Murphys OilSoap and a bottle. Then make up a batch of Stumpkillers Moose Milk. You can find the instructions for how to mix it in the Links area of this forum.

zonie

 

[RetiredMedic]

Very Nice Wood!!!! :thumbsup:

I have the New England in 12 ga.. :hatsoff:

It a good weapon. :applause:

I looking for a .54 cal barrel for it...

 

[bowkill]

When I bought a used GPR a bottle of TC No 13 Bore Cleaner came with it.

A few weeks later after shooting some of my Cap & Ball pistols I thought I would try it to clean my pistols.
After running a patch wetted with #13 thru the bore a few times, I ran a dry patch thru the bore. It came out rusty.
I thought "well, maybe I didn't get it clean with just one application of #13 so I again ran the wet patch thru the bore followed by a dry patch.
This patch also came out rusty.
I then proceeded to clean the bore with soap and water followed by dry patches. None of them had rust.

Wondering about this, I proceeded to clean another pistol with soap and water followed by dry patches. They did not have any rust on them so I ran a clean patch wetted with #13 thru the already clean bore, counted to 10 and ran a dry patch. It also came out rusty.

I don't know why, perhaps #13 just cleans too well but after it repeatedly caused a surface rust to form within seconds of its use I decided then and there that I would never use the stuff again.

I still have the bottle of it sitting on a shelf. I guess I would throw it away but, as my wife knows, I never throw anything away even if I consider it useless.

As for using it as a patch lube, I wouldn't.
Not only might it cause the same surface rust I was seeing, it doesn't have anything in it to lubricate the patch/bore or to protect it after the shot.
If you want to try a really good patch lube that not only does an excellent job of wiping the bore but also leaves a coating of oil to protect the bore after the shot, buy yourself some Castor Oil, Alcohol, Witch Hazel, Murphys OilSoap and a bottle. Then make up a batch of Stumpkillers Moose Milk. You can find the instructions for how to mix it in the Links area of this forum.

zonie

I will give this a try!!thanks

 

[MikeC]

I'm not a fan of #13 also but was under the assumption it is nothing more than water soluble cutting oil and water.

Mink oil,bore-butter and Hoppes for BP. Either makes a fine patch lube.

Alcohol with some Murphy's OS mixed in for a bore cleaner works great. I add a touch of red dye so I can tell my patches are soaked. I stack them in a container then pour the mix in and let them absorb it.

BTW...That is one heck of a beautiful stock, looks like the wood T/C used for the Cougar.

 

[Rebel]

Great looking stock. As for a load, try 70 grs of Goex 3f or the same of Pyrodex P and a lubed ticking patched .490 rd ball or a 320 gr Lee REAL Bullet. They do make a .12 ga barrel for them and T/C Still sells them but they want $175 for them. You can find them on some of the auctions sometimes for less.