testing Skychief's special load

[Eric Krewson]

I didn't soak my fiber wad in olive oil, probably the reason that load didn't work for me.

 

[BrownBear]

Extra weight from the olive oil appears the deciding factor in success.

Haven't tried it yet, but my impulse is simply to use two of the fiber wads. I've always used olive oil (but lots less of it) on fiber wads seated below the shot. Sure lots handier for me just to plop a couple of them on top of the load.

Clearly I gotta do some shooting. But my "gotta" list is different than momma's right now! :rotf:

 

[Feltwad]

op: op: op:
Will Feltwad be the exception to prove the rule? :idunno: I'm staying tuned...... :haha:

Good luck Feltwad!!!

Mr. Krewson, I've loaded with a couple of nitro cards on top of the shot before settling on the Special load. Killed a turkey or two loading way.
It tightened patterns too, versus conventional ways. Maybe that version of loading will work better out of jug choked guns. :thumbsup:

Best regards, Skychief

Has promised I have given the load a try both days
I used a single barrel 12 bore flint lock and sxs 12 bore percussion The load was a volume load of 2.3/4 drms of medium powder to 1.1/8 oz of number 5 and 7 shot. The felt wad on top of the shot wad was 3/8 and soaked in a mixture of tallow and olive oil. The most notable thing was the kick on the single barrel flint it was excessive but the killing range was further out but not much more, with only a slight improvement in killing range I think I will stick with my volume load .
What I was looking for was a longer killing range shooting at a pattern plate at a given distance is totally different to a good killing range
Feltwad

 

[Skychief]

op: op: op:
Will Feltwad be the exception to prove the rule? :idunno: I'm staying tuned...... :haha:

Good luck Feltwad!!!

Mr. Krewson, I've loaded with a couple of nitro cards on top of the shot before settling on the Special load. Killed a turkey or two loading way.
It tightened patterns too, versus conventional ways. Maybe that version of loading will work better out of jug choked guns. :thumbsup:

Best regards, Skychief

Has promised I have given the load a try both days
I used a single barrel 12 bore flint lock and sxs 12 bore percussion The load was a volume load of 2.3/4 drms of medium powder to 1.1/8 oz of number 5 and 7 shot. The felt wad on top of the shot wad was 3/8 and soaked in a mixture of tallow and olive oil. The most notable thing was the kick on the single barrel flint it was excessive but the killing range was further out but not much more, with only a slight improvement in killing range I think I will stick with my volume load .
What I was looking for was a longer killing range shooting at a pattern plate at a given distance is totally different to a good killing range
Feltwad

Feltwad, sounds like you found a modest improvement in your pattern with the components which you used. No?

You wrote, '...felt wad on top of the shot was 3/8 and soaked in a mixture of tallow and olive oil'.

I'm not certain what the 3/8 means. Is that the length of it? 3/8"?

As many have wrote, the load needs what we Yankees call a cushion wad, not a wool felt wad. The cushion wad needs to be soaked with olive oil to make it as heavy as possible. No mention of tallow nor felt wads are in the recipe.

Lastly, you wrote of 'shooting at a pattern plate at a given distance is totally different to a good killing range'.

Huh?

I hope you find time to try the load described here and I hope you find a greater killing range with it, however you measure that.

Best regards, Skychief

 

[Feltwad]

op: op: op:
Will Feltwad be the exception to prove the rule? :idunno: I'm staying tuned...... :haha:

Good luck Feltwad!!!

Mr. Krewson, I've loaded with a couple of nitro cards on top of the shot before settling on the Special load. Killed a turkey or two loading way.
It tightened patterns too, versus conventional ways. Maybe that version of loading will work better out of jug choked guns. :thumbsup:

Best regards, Skychief

Has promised I have given the load a try both days
I used a single barrel 12 bore flint lock and sxs 12 bore percussion The load was a volume load of 2.3/4 drms of medium powder to 1.1/8 oz of number 5 and 7 shot. The felt wad on top of the shot wad was 3/8 and soaked in a mixture of tallow and olive oil. The most notable thing was the kick on the single barrel flint it was excessive but the killing range was further out but not much more, with only a slight improvement in killing range I think I will stick with my volume load .
What I was looking for was a longer killing range shooting at a pattern plate at a given distance is totally different to a good killing range
Feltwad

Feltwad, sounds like you found a modest improvement in your pattern with the components which you used. No?

You wrote, '...felt wad on top of the shot was 3/8 and soaked in a mixture of tallow and olive oil'.

I'm not certain what the 3/8 means. Is that the length of it? 3/8"?

As many have wrote, the load needs what we Yankees call a cushion wad, not a wool felt wad. The cushion wad needs to be soaked with olive oil to make it as heavy as possible. No mention of tallow nor felt wads are in the recipe.

Lastly, you wrote of 'shooting at a pattern plate at a given distance is totally different to a good killing range'.

Huh?

I hope you find time to try the load described here and I hope you find a greater killing range with it, however you measure that.

Best regards, Skychief

I said I would give it a try which I did the wad I used the same has a cushion wad and tallow mixed with olive oil is also better ,has far has wads are concerned the recipe was cushion wads but other wads are just has good
Yes the range was few more yards than to a ordinary load but that can be obtain by other means.
Most of my shooting is 30 to 35 yards killing zone and what I was looking for was that extra distance it was slightly more
Has to the pattern plate at 50 yards to a killing pattern at 50 yards is totally different .At the beginning of this thread Spencer shot at 50yards and to put the shot onto the plate he aimed high so that shows that the shot was then loosing its velocity, has a killing pattern this in not good it wounds more game than it kills and it also encourages long shots so I do not see where {Huh } comes into it
Yes your load has good results but it also does not come up to what I expected and for me I can get the same by other means
Feltwad

 

[BrownBear]

...has far has wads are concerned the recipe was cushion wads but other wads are just has good....

Not even close, as your own shooting has proven.

These are the cushion wads everyone else is recommending and using, and your felt wads bear no resemblance. And your felts clearly are sub-par.

Enjoy your thoughts and your shooting. As we'll enjoy our own! :rotf:

 

[Feltwad]

...has far has wads are concerned the recipe was cushion wads but other wads are just has good....

Not even close, as your own shooting has proven.

These are the cushion wads everyone else is recommending and using, and your felt wads bear no resemblance. And your felts clearly are sub-par.

Enjoy your thoughts and your shooting. As we'll enjoy our own! :rotf:

Is there a difference between cushion wads in the Uk and those in the States I wonder Those in the UK has I said my felt based wads are similar.
Over 68 years of shooting flint and percussion shotguns in all bore sizes for which I have used numerous types of wads so I know what I am talking about.
Has for my shooting using felt wads been under par is a bit below the belt.
Feltwad

 

[FiremanBrad]

Thanks for the link, I ordered some!!!
And some bullets for my sharps.
And a book...
Dang, shipping is high!!!

 

[George]

These are the ones I use, from Circle Fly. The 1/2" Fiber Cushion at this link. Untreated.
http://www.circlefly.com/html/products.html

Spence

 

[The Baron]

These are the ones I use, from Circle Fly. The 1/2" Fiber Cushion at this link. Untreated.
http://www.circlefly.com/html/products.html

Spence

I use the same ones, Spence. They soak up the olive oil nicely. :thumbsup:

 

[BrownBear]

...has far has wads are concerned the recipe was cushion wads but other wads are just has good....

Not even close, as your own shooting has proven.

These are the cushion wads everyone else is recommending and using, and your felt wads bear no resemblance. And your felts clearly are sub-par.

Enjoy your thoughts and your shooting. As we'll enjoy our own! :rotf:

Is there a difference between cushion wads in the Uk and those in the States I wonder Those in the UK has I said my felt based wads are similar.
Over 68 years of shooting flint and percussion shotguns in all bore sizes for which I have used numerous types of wads so I know what I am talking about.
Has for my shooting using felt wads been under par is a bit below the belt.
Feltwad

Just makin sure you knew what everyone was talking about. Yu kept saying felt and everyone else was talking fiber cushion wads. Confusion abounds until the same words are used for the same things.

 

[Peter72]

So, I gave this load a go today.
75gns 2p (Wano), OP card, 1 1/8 #7, OS card, lubed cushion wad.
Overall I'm happy with the pattern,
it probably did the tighten the pattern as much as I'd thought though.
Have a photo but no idea how to upload.

 

[Skychief]

My squirrel hunting buddy came by this weekend for a little shooting.

Our season opens August 15 and he wanted to pattern his newly made fowler. He found the Special Load delivered squirrel and turkey killing patterns with fairly light loads. As he shot, I mowed grass (talk about drawing the short straw!) :haha: .

At one point, he waved me over to the patterning board. There, I was shown a heckuva pattern shot at 27 yards. When he mentioned it was shot with 1 1/8 ounce of shot, my eyes bugged out :shocked2: .

The load would have cleanly taken any gobbler or squirrel at that range and then some. I suggested that he proof it, and that he did!

If the squirrels knew what was in store for , we might see a mass migration! :haha:

It shot tight.

Best regards, Skychief

 

[Britsmoothy]

:hatsoff:
B.

 

[The Baron]

I love the thought of putting a light load on target, instead of scattering a ton of shot into the wild blue yonder and then searching for my fillings on the forest floor! :thumbsup:

 

[BillinOregon]

Bump for turkey season.

 

[George]

Decided to replace the missing photos above, my photo hosting site went belly up, I guess.

The two shot at 50 yards.

The one mentioned above, cylinder bore 12 gauge, 70 gr. 2F, hard card, 1 1/4 oz. #5, saturated cushion at 25 yards.

Spence

 

[Skychief]

This thread was suggested for spudnut to look into by Zonie.

I just want to say that I sorely miss Spence around here.

Skychief.

 

[Britsmoothy]

This thread was suggested for spudnut to look into by Zonie.

I just want to say that I sorely miss Spence around here.

Skychief.

Me too, what happened?

 

[Skychief]

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