The last of the trade guns .

[WALT53]

I was at a gun show today and low a behold there was a late 1800s percussion smoothbore (28gauge ) trade gun that was found in a warehouse in Winnipeg Manitoba in the 1960s .The barrel was packed full of grease still as was the nipple ,he said he had gotten 3 of them and had sold the other 2 to a collector because the serial numbers were inline with one another .The gun has a 36” barrel and the big bow trigger gaurd ,any body have any idea what it may be worth as I didn’t press him and he was asking for offers. I know I should have taken pictures but I don’t have a smart phone but may be able to get some after the weekend ,it looked to be in good condition with a few scuffs.
walt

 

[WALT53]

I was at a gun show today and low a behold there was a late 1800s percussion smoothbore (28gauge ) trade gun that was found in a warehouse in Winnipeg Manitoba in the 1960s .The barrel was packed full of grease still as was the nipple ,he said he had gotten 3 of them and had sold the other 2 to a collector because the serial numbers were inline with one another .The gun has a 36” barrel and the big bow trigger gaurd ,any body have any idea what it may be worth as I didn’t press him and he was asking for offers. I know I should have taken pictures but I don’t have a smart phone but may be able to get some after the weekend ,it looked to be in good condition with a few scuffs.
walt

Opps that should be 24 gauge sorry .

 

[hawkenhunter50]

Serial numbers on a trade gun sounds suspicious

 

[Sam squanch]

Need pictures. Lots of old original guns were were put up and forgotten, it could be the real thing!

 

[54ball]

I was at a gun show today and low a behold there was a late 1800s percussion smoothbore (28gauge ) trade gun that was found in a warehouse in Winnipeg Manitoba in the 1960s .The barrel was packed full of grease still as was the nipple ,he said he had gotten 3 of them and had sold the other 2 to a collector because the serial numbers were inline with one another .The gun has a 36” barrel and the big bow trigger gaurd ,any body have any idea what it may be worth as I didn’t press him and he was asking for offers. I know I should have taken pictures but I don’t have a smart phone but may be able to get some after the weekend ,it looked to be in good condition with a few scuffs.
walt

The basic NW pattern could have been made past 1900.
There seems to be no definite cut off. A lot of this may come from guns in inventory and not actually produced.
I may be wrong but that’s how I understand it.

 

[The Crisco Kid]

In the '70's I saw two that a fellow had picked up in British Colombia that sound like the one in the OP. They had a rear sight made by curling up metal on the top flat and filing a notch in it. Pretty crude and probably useless.

 

[Hiverano]

"They had a rear sight made by curling up metal on the top flat and filing a notch in it."​

I have several NW guns (reprodustions and originals) two have the curled up metal with a files notch in them - this methods works better than trying to sight off the tang screw as seen in the video just provided with Jonathan shooting another one of my NW guns. An inexpensive method that was not that uncommon.

They had a rear sight made by curling up metal on the top flat and filing a notch in it. Pretty crude and probably useless.

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[Hiverano]

The basic NW pattern could have been made past 1900.
There seems to be no definite cut off. A lot of this may come from guns in inventory and not actually produced.
I may be wrong but that’s how I understand it.

Hanson told us they were still made into the early 1900, but now they looked like an H&R single shot shotgun, the museum had several examples of these NW Trade Guns. I screwed up as he wanted to sell me one and I passed on it !@#$%

 

[Hiverano]

"The last of the trade guns" (title isn't correct per Museum of the Fur Trade Charley Hanson when still alive in 1997). A year before Charley's death he showed be a stamped NW Trade Gun built in the 1930's it looked like an H&R single shot muzzleloading shotgun (in 20 gauge). A month later he called to tell me he found another one and wanted to know if I was interested. I had to pass on the purchase at the time, short on funds. ​

I had forgotten about this until seeing this posting.​

In the picture below is one of the guns mentioned along with my pre 1816 Sharpe NW Gun.

 

[Irishmusket]

trade guns are still made North west types India Italy one of the most common trade guns were made in Spain by Dikker and Mendi 9mm 410 and 28 end 20 gauge crude but shootable percussion smooth bores for third world Brazil Amadeo Rossi primary business was making things out of sheet metal and trade muskets for the Indians neat little 3 band percussion muskets 48 call and 9 mm smooth bore very light but shoot ok .these were made up the Late 1970s .trade musket .were produced in Mexico as well a common one a neat 28 and 20 gauge percussion single shotgun made By Atlas in Mexico.England made and sold Trade guns both English made and Belgian.The Belgians were by far the largest producer of trade muskets in the world from the late 18th century to the early 1980 s Both early ones and latter ones are common in the US and Canada as large numbers were distributed from 1800 to the 1980s

 

[duca]

Get rid of the flip phone dude

 

[smoothshooter]

Get rid of the flip phone dude

I second dumping the flip phone. If you do you will kick yourself for not doing it years ago.