The Pavia Tapestries…. In Person!

[TobJohn]

Many thanks.
The monkey on the saddle, escaped from it's cage, was a rib-tickler.

The illustrious Duke Monkey, the true hero of Pavia!

 

[TobJohn]

The clothing they wore was pretty.......well.........ridiculous. I guess slits were "in".

I was looking through my saved muzzleloader images and found this particularly outrageous example.

When you need to fight the French at 5 and party in the Castro at 8!

 

[Codger Craig Wilcox]

I was looking through my saved muzzleloader images and found this particularly outrageous example.

When you need to fight the French at 5 and party in the Castro at 8!
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I thought he/she/it was auditioning for the Court Jester job opening!

Really, though, think of the fact that there were no sewing machines at the time, and try to figure how many seams were just in one pair of pants!

 

[Jaeger]

I was looking through my saved muzzleloader images and found this particularly outrageous example.

When you need to fight the French at 5 and party in the Castro at 8!
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I can read German but the lettering and 16th century spelling are throwing me off...lol. The picture title is " Musket Master" . I will check with my German friends to translate the rest.

 

[TobJohn]

I can read German but the lettering and 16th century spelling are throwing me off...lol. The picture title is " Musket Master" . I will check with my German friends to translate the rest.

if I remember correctly from a Michael Tromner post, some German gun words had different meanings in the first half of the 16th century, or fell out of use. That could make it harder

 

[Jaeger]

I was looking through my saved muzzleloader images and found this particularly outrageous example.

When you need to fight the French at 5 and party in the Castro at 8!
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if I remember correctly from a Michael Tromner post, some German gun words had different meanings in the first half of the 16th century, or fell out of use. That could make it harder

 

[TobJohn]

Amazing!!!!! It sounds like its a poem?

 

[Jaeger]

Amazing!!!!! It sounds like its a poem?

Yes...it rhymes, so actually it is. My friend in Germany had to think and work on this one, because the spelling and language and usage itself has changed since 1530, just like in English. After reading this, I think the musketeers ("gunmasters") went in first during an attack to soften up the enemy and were followed by the pikemen. This guy was one of the "forlorn (lost) league" or gunmasters.

 

[TobJohn]

Yes...it rhymes, so actually it is. My friend in Germany had to think and work on this one, because the spelling and language and usage itself has changed since 1530, just like in English. After reading this, I think the musketeers ("gunmasters") went in first during an attack to soften up the enemy and were followed by the pikemen. This guy was one of the "forlorn (lost) league" or gunmasters.

That matches what I’ve read for the role of arquebusiers in the landsknechts. A lot of sources claim that landsknechts arquebusiers were doppelsonder, so that would imply dangerous battlefield work, like a forlorn hope.

Excellent work from your friend!

 

[Billy-by-gosh]

That matches what I’ve read for the role of arquebusiers in the landsknechts. A lot of sources claim that landsknechts arquebusiers were doppelsonder, so that would imply dangerous battlefield work, like a forlorn hope.

Excellent work from your friend!

Doppelsöldner​

Doppelsöldner were Landsknechte in 16th-century Germany who volunteered to fight in the front line, taking on extra risk, in exchange for double payment. The stated ratio was that one Landsknecht in four would be a Doppelsöldner. Wikipedia

 

[smoothshooter]

The Pavia Tapestries are currently a traveling exhibit and I was able to see them at the De Young. They are some of my favorite art, so seeing them was a real treat. In person, they are very imposing and breathtakingly detailed.

I didn’t get a great photo of the entirety of the first one and if any of the faces of the other patrons are too clear, please let me know and I will delete.
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One of the most rewarding parts of seeing the tapestries in persons is that the perspective is designed to be viewed looking up from the front middle. That way, the battle extends out into the distance. Seeing images on the computer does not have the same effect

Where is the De Young?

The illustrious Duke Monkey, the true hero of Pavia!

 

[TobJohn]

Where is the De Young?

San Fransisco. I know that won’t appeal to many in this forum, but in a couple of months, the exhibit is moving to Texas.

 

[smoothshooter]

San Fransisco. I know that won’t appeal to many in this forum, but in a couple of months, the exhibit is moving to Texas.

I think it would be very interesting.
The cyclorama in the museum at Waterloo, Belgium is awesome too, but it is not a series of tapestries.

 

[TobJohn]

I think it would be very interesting.
The cyclorama in the museum at Waterloo, Belgium is awesome too, but it is not a series of tapestries.

The Gettysburg one, too!

in one of the companion videos in the exhibit, someone talks about how the tapestries would have been significantly more well known and respected if they were in a different medium, even though a ridiculous amount of effort goes into tapestries. Tapestries are just more obscure.