The Revenant.

[ColonialRifleSmith]

I watched the movie the Revenant the other day. I remembered another move the Revenant is a remake from, 'Man in the Wilderness', Richard Harris, 1971. So, I watched man in the wilderness again. Although Man in the Wilderness is an old movie, IMHO, it's a much better movie from start to finish. It's also more realistic. One part that stands out to me in the Revenant is, when Leo Decaprio is fighting the bear, he shoots the bear several times without reloading. One of his shots is with the lock cock completely clogged with leaves. WOW, I'd like my smoke pole to do that. Watch 'Man in the Wilderness' if you haven't seen it. Semper Fi.

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[hanshi]

I've seen both and liked both, but you are correct; the Harris version was better.

 

[Loyalist Dave]

I watched the movie the Revenant the other day. I remembered another move the Revenant is a remake from, 'Man in the Wilderness', Richard Harris, 1971. So, I watched man in the wilderness again. Although Man in the Wilderness is an old movie, IMHO, it's a much better movie from start to finish. It's also more realistic. One part that stands out to me in the Revenant is, when Leo Decaprio is fighting the bear, he shoots the bear several times without reloading. One of his shots is with the lock cock completely clogged with leaves. WOW, I'd like my smoke pole to do that. Watch 'Man in the Wilderness' if you haven't seen it. Semper Fi.

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I only caught part of the Revenant with the Native attack on the white men, and they were so far off NONE of the Natives could be seen...., sorry, but the secret of the Native American Bows was they were very quiet, and lower draw weight than most recurve hunting bows today, allowing for quicker draw, and thus higher rate of projectiles flying, BUT they had to get pretty close compared to a European long bow. Too many Hollywood directors don't learn about the tech in historic based films and assume nobody else does either, so no harm no foul.

LD

 

[Omahkapi'si]

The bear was angry at Leo for calling a normal Chinook winter warm up “climate change”. That’ll teach him to do his homework next time.

 

[Sidney Smith]

I too have seen both movies, and will agree the Richard Harris version is better. The Revenant was too into its weird lighting and camera shots I think.

The scene where Bass shoots the bear was pretty hokey. I watched his gun the whole time. The frizzen was open, the gun ends up upside down multiple times, yet he closes it and fires without any issues. We all know the chances of that would be slim without any priming powder

 

[Cayman like]

The Revenant stunk. It'd been better if they changed his name like they did in "Man in the Wilderness ". The Natives could do no wrong. The Rees attacked Ashley's men because a rival fur company rescued a Sioux woman from them and killed a few of them a little while before. They were out for revenge on the first white men that came along. Ashley traded for horses from them before the battle. That led to short-lived Aricara war. But that's Hollywood. Lol.

 

[kyron4]

Ahhh, I'm just happy every few years they come out with a period piece from the time. You can pick a part any movie , but at the end of the day they're are made for entertainment.

 

[kyron4]

For you guys that swear he shoots the bear several times without reloading, here the entire scene from the movie. He shoots one time. Yes the frizzen was open (not clogged with leaves) and he closes it prior to shooting with likely no prime in the pan. Must be a bit of the Mandela effect going on.

 

[Blitz]

Ahhh, I'm just happy every few years they come out with a period piece from the time. You can pick a part any movie , but at the end of the day they're are made for entertainment.

I don`t why they even bother to list technicle advisors . Are the even on the set , dothey watch the shota, look at the script Gad it looks like they just must be a relative and collect a check from the producers for skipping while swaping thumbs.
watched a poirot episode this morning an he stated to Hastings that Columbia was a landlocked country. This from Agatha Christy a reknown writer. Or was it the makers of the film ?
And if you really want ridiculous just watch the news sxity or more years ago I was involved in two incidents the first of which I did not see any reporters or camera men there and the second in which both were present. when I viewed the reportage on TV I actually thought I must be in a foriegn country with fictional writers. The results were so utterly ridiculous.

Blitz

 

[Colonial Boy]

I think that when an historical person is portrayed then the film makers should stick to the facts or at least closely; was there ever any evidence that Hugh Glass was buried alive?

That films are only entertainment is demonstrably not true, the Indian Govt, banned the film “Gandhi” because it portrayed his assassin as a Moslem when in fact the killer was a fellow Hindu.
The Government feared riots if the film was shown.

 

[alcessapiens]

Keep it simple…movies are for mass consumption, people are generally ignorant of history, science, language, customs, geography, and on and on. You all know guns so the errors leap out at you, you are also history buffs so those errors are apparent. They made the movie for profits and to hell with accuracy. I watch movies and science errors drive me batty because I know science. Producers and directors don’t and script writers don’t and it shows. As long as the cash train is running they don’t care. And, face it, most of these errors would be so easy to fix. Seems they’d do themselves a favor hiring advisers on muzzleloading right here.

 

[kyron4]

Everybody else: " What a great movie ! I enjoyed it and and found it entertaining "

Muzzleloader shooters : "If you pause it on frame 537 and zoom in to 32X you can clearly see it's a French Amber flint on a mid century British Brown Bess. What a lack of regard for detail and historical correctness. How hard is to to make a descent movie these days ? "

 

[pacanis]

Thanks for posting the video @kyron4
I didn't recall him shooting multiple shots either.

 

[ColonialRifleSmith]

For you guys that swear he shoots the bear several times without reloading, here the entire scene from the movie. He shoots one time. Yes the frizzen was open (not clogged with leaves) and he closes it prior to shooting with likely no prime in the pan. Must be a bit of the Mandela effect going on.

You got me. Now I'm stumped what movie scene I have this one mixed up with. There's that old brain misfiring again. Semper Fi.

 

[ColonialRifleSmith]

Everybody else: " What a great movie ! I enjoyed it and and found it entertaining "

Muzzleloader shooters : "If you pause it on frame 537 and zoom in to 32X you can clearly see it's a French Amber flint on a mid century British Brown Bess. What a lack of regard for detail and historical correctness. How hard is to to make a descent movie these days ? "

I was watching, 'Revolution' with Al Pacino. In his 1st battle scene when the camera pans down the colonial battle line, there are all sorts of guns. One guy even has a Snyder Conversion. It does irk me when they get this stuff wrong. Semper Fi.

 

[ColonialRifleSmith]

Everybody else: " What a great movie ! I enjoyed it and and found it entertaining "

Muzzleloader shooters : "If you pause it on frame 537 and zoom in to 32X you can clearly see it's a French Amber flint on a mid century British Brown Bess. What a lack of regard for detail and historical correctness. How hard is to to make a descent movie these days ? "

I'm not trying to be a wise guy here. I don't get your point. The film period supposed to be early 1800's. There were a lot of surplus Bess's laying around at that time. Also, all the parts from broken guns left over from the Rev. War that were reused into new guns. Could you please expand on your post? Thanks, Semper Fi.

 

[alcessapiens]

I was watching, 'Revolution' with Al Pacino. In his 1st battle scene when the camera pans down the colonial battle line, there are all sorts of guns. One guy even has a Snyder Conversion. It does irk me when they get this stuff wrong. Semper Fi.

watched a ww1 movie and all the german soldiers had smle, I guess they were available in large numbers and mausers weren’t ? perhaps they looted them?

 

[Mike Payne]

I have seen both movies Man in the wilderness is the better movie. I read a book by the title of Lord Grizzly many years ago great book but can’t remember the name of the author. The book was about the life of Glass. Had a hard time putting the book down!

 

[earlwb]

Well one thought is that when he closed the frizzen and jostled the gun some trying to not be killed by the bear was that some powder could have trickled into the flash pan from the chamber through the flash hole. Thus it might have been enough to fire it off.

 

[pacanis]

But with the frizzen up, would there have been a spark?

But that might be nit-picking. Maybe they simply did not want to do the seen over.

I just watched the tail end of The Alamo. The one with John Wayne.
Did Davey Crockett really blow himself up when he took the torch into the magazine to destroy the supplies?
Who knows? But it's still a good movie.

I side with entertainment purposes. Unless it is strictly billed as a documentary.