Tin box.

[Black Hand]

So japanned is a black varnished or shellaced tin? How did that term come about? Did the country of Japan have anything to do with it?

I suspect because it resembles the black lacquer so common in Japan.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanning
http://www.cranialstorage.com/Wood/elmorain_japan.html
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/15622/15622-h/15622-h.htm

 

[Eutycus]

Never got an answer to one of my questions. Are Sucrets still being manufactured?

 

[Black Hand]

Never got an answer to one of my questions. Are Sucrets still being manufactured?

As far as I know, yes. Available on Amazon and at fine stores everywhere....

 

[Coot]

Japan black is a finish - apparently called that because lacquer finishes were often associated with products from Japan/China. It can be painted on many things, not just tinware. For example it was common on the iron hilts & guards of naval cutlasses as a rust preventative.

 

[George]

They used the term japan'd in ways I find surprising, as in this example.

The Pennsylvania Gazette
September 12, 1732
PHILADELPHIA, Sept. 5. Some of the Chiefs of the Five (now Six) Nations, as Ambassadors from their Great Council, having been in Town since a few Days after our Honourable Proprietor's Arrival, a Treaty was entred into with them, in order to renew the ancient Chain of Friendship between them and us; and on Thursday last, at the Great Meeting-House, large Presents were made them on Behalf of our Government, consisting of Blankets, Strouds, Kettles, Guns , Powder, Shot, &c. and in particular, the Proprietor presented six Guns , curiously wrought, and the Stocks japan'd with Gold, the finest that have ever been seen here, to be delivered as a Mark of his Affection, one to the King of each Nation.

Spence

 

[Coot]

Quite possibly painted black & designs in gold (leaf?) pressed on & then coated with clear lacquer. I have seen boxes & even chairs done this way.

 

[Eutycus]

Why not just paint the tins black?

 

[Carbon 6]

They used the term japan'd in ways I find surprising, as in this example.

The Pennsylvania Gazette
September 12, 1732
PHILADELPHIA, Sept. 5. Some of the Chiefs of the Five (now Six) Nations, as Ambassadors from their Great Council, having been in Town since a few Days after our Honourable Proprietor's Arrival, a Treaty was entred into with them, in order to renew the ancient Chain of Friendship between them and us; and on Thursday last, at the Great Meeting-House, large Presents were made them on Behalf of our Government, consisting of Blankets, Strouds, Kettles, Guns , Powder, Shot, &c. and in particular, the Proprietor presented six Guns , curiously wrought, and the Stocks japan'd with Gold, the finest that have ever been seen here, to be delivered as a Mark of his Affection, one to the King of each Nation.

Spence

Fine furniture was also "Japanned" in Europe during the 18th century. It was not always black, Scarlet Japanning used ground vermillion to imitate Japanese lacquer.

 

[Black Hand]

Why not just paint the tins black?

The paint might not stick?
The Japanning was baked-on and made a protective coating.

 

[hanshi]

I use some of the tins mentioned for patches and lube grease. Old cap tins work just as well.

Oh, and fruitcake goes back to - this is documented - ancient Egypt.

 

[jackley]

This is my only sucrets box. I shamelessly stole the idea of the dividers in the tin from someone,

and I can't remember who. But it keeps my lubed felts from the over shot and over powder wads. But I see in the pic a over powder wad found its way into the lubed wads I only carry it with the brass powder tubes, priming flask, and shot pouch and measure. When I'm out for a short hunt. I load the gun at home then have four reloads with me, in my pockets.

 

[shane a gress]

This is my only sucrets box. I shamelessly stole the idea of the dividers in the tin from someone,View attachment 2097 and I can't remember who. But it keeps my lubed felts from the over shot and over powder wads. But I see in the pic a over powder wad found its way into the lubed wads I only carry it with the brass powder tubes, priming flask, and shot pouch and measure. When I'm out for a short hunt. I load the gun at home then have four reloads with me, in my pockets.

I like it...may I ask what you made the divider out of?

 

[jackley]

If I remember right I think it was the tin from another sucrets tin. Cleaned it and the one in the pic. Cut one tin to size bent it at a 90 and soldered it in.

Jerry

 

[shane a gress]

Thanks, Jerry. I'll give it a try. Now does anyone have an idea how I could recreate the Jappaned finish?

 

[Stumpkiller]

I use green hanging folder stock. ;-)

 

[shane a gress]

I use green hanging folder stock. ;-)

That's awsome! Looks like origami.

 

[jackley]

I use green hanging folder stock. ;-)

Stump;

I think that's the box I stole the idea from. Why didn't you say then the divider was made from cardboard. It would saved alot of work cutting tin and soldering it up. Ha! Ha!

Jerry

 

[Stumpkiller]

What? And stifle your creative juices? It's hardly historically correct . . . but certainly the tech is period possible. Maybe if we do one with sturgeon swim bladders and squirrel leather . . .

Sure is handy for a day of upland hunting with a powder horn, shot pouch and available pocket, though.

 

[Eutycus]

Does anyone use the round ones like airgun pellets come in?

 

[Juice Jaws]

Does anyone use the round ones like airgun pellets come in?

I do, works great for patches