Tingle Lock?

[shump]

This forum has been great to learn more about everything muzzleloader, so thank you. I recently acquired what has stamped on the lock and barrel H E Dimick St Louis. I know it's not an original, but I was interested in it for a living history presentation to talk about the 66th Illinois Infantry, they were issued Dimicks and similar hawken style rifles to be used as Sharpshooters. After taking a part the rifle and doing a little research on this forum, I believe the base rifle is a Tingle. I found some photos online that has the same lock, barrel and other features that lead me to believe that it was originally a Tingle. I just need some more verification from the experts on here. Thank you very much in advance.

 

[Mrdix]

Can we see the rest of the rifle ? I am no expert but I thought coil spring Mainsprings were a rather new thing ….

 

[shump]

This forum has been great to learn more about everything muzzleloader, so thank you. I recently acquired what has stamped on the lock and barrel H E Dimick St Louis. I know it's not an original, but I was interested in it for a living history presentation to talk about the 66th Illinois Infantry, they were issued Dimicks and similar hawken style rifles to be used as Sharpshooters. After taking a part the rifle and doing a little research on this forum, I believe the base rifle is a Tingle. I found some photos online that has the same lock, barrel and other features that lead me to believe that it was originally a Tingle. I just need some more verification from the experts on here. Thank you very much in advance. View attachment 293097

 

[shump]

This forum has been great to learn more about everything muzzleloader, so thank you. I recently acquired what has stamped on the lock and barrel H E Dimick St Louis. I know it's not an original, but I was interested in it for a living history presentation to talk about the 66th Illinois Infantry, they were issued Dimicks and similar hawken style rifles to be used as Sharpshooters. After taking a part the rifle and doing a little research on this forum, I believe the base rifle is a Tingle. I found some photos online that has the same lock, barrel and other features that lead me to believe that it was originally a Tingle. I just need some more verification from the experts on here. Thank you very much in advance. View attachment 293097

 

[shump]

Can we see the rest of the rifle ? I am no expert but I thought coil spring Mainsprings were a rather new thing ….

Posted a couple of more pics.
Thank you

 

[IronHand]

Based on the barrel wedge/pin and the front sight that's a Tingle .

Ironhand

 

[shump]

Based on the barrel wedge/pin and the front sight that's a Tingle .

Ironhand

Thank you sir. Any idea if there's any replacement nipples available for it?

 

[IronHand]

The one I had took 1/4-28 like a TC. Pull the nipple and take it to the hardware store. Try it in a 1/4-28 nut. If it fits then just need to get one of about the same cone length.

If it doesn't fit then try some of the metric nuts, fine thread.
Track of the Wolf has a good selection of nipples.

IronHand

 

[poker]

Take your nipple out and measure the thread. Id bet its a 1/4-28 and theyre readily available

 

[shump]

The one I had took 1/4-28 like a TC. Pull the nipple and take it to the hardware store. Try it in a 1/4-28 nut. If it fits then just need to get one of about the same cone length.

If it doesn't fit then try some of the metric nuts, fine thread.
Track of the Wolf has a good selection of nipples.

IronHand

Thank you, great information.

 

[sheriff john]

Rifle and lock appear to be Bob Tingle's product. The poured nose cap was a sorta trademark on quite a few of his rifles. He passed on in the 1970's

 

[shump]

Rifle and lock appear to be Bob Tingle's product. The poured nose cap was a sorta trademark on quite a few of his rifles. He passed on in the 1970's

I would love to know who added the Dimick on the lock and barrel. That's what drew me to getting it.

 

[shump]

View attachment 293098

The breech plug was super easy to remove. It reminded of a New England firearms handi muzzleloader I once owned. Is it normal for the drum to come down into the breech that far? It would sit right down on the plug face

 

[Rawhide67]

Breach plug should be more than hand tight and I wouldn't want that protrusion in the bore. You're going to get fouling built up behind it and /or get something stuck trying to clean it.

 

[shump]

Breach plug should be more than hand tight and I wouldn't want that protrusion in the bore. You're going to get fouling built up behind it and /or get something stuck trying to clean it.

I had use a ratchet on it, it wasn't hand tight, but wasn't as difficult as I've seen other ones.

 

[shump]

Take your nipple out and measure the thread. Id bet its a 1/4-28 and theyre readily available

Measured it today and it is. I only shoot reproduction Civil war muskets, so I'm going to grab a musket cap nipple for it and see if it works.

 

[Cowboy]

Yes, that is a Tingle model 1962 TGT Rifle my friend.

Some argue that Bob Tingle was the very first to introduce coil spring main springs in his locks. Even before TC.

Barrels were Douglas. All other hardware were handmade by him and an employee that worked for him. Stock, Lock, and furniture.

Nose cap is pewter. Cheek peice on stock is concave. Wedge key is a solid stainless steel pin dowel.

He passed away fairly young during the blizzard of 78. Had a massive heart attack. He was 57 or 58 years old at the time.

Here’s some pictures of my Tingle model 1962 TGT Rifle in .45 cal.

Respectfully, Cowboy

 

[Cowboy]

Disregard 1st picture. Posted that picture by mistake. That 1st pic is not a Tingle.

 

[Cowboy]

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Someone had defarbed your lock plate and stamped H. E . Dimick in its place. The rifle stock was also refinished on yours. Tingle used a lacquer finish on all his rifles.

 

[Cowboy]

The one I had took 1/4-28 like a TC. Pull the nipple and take it to the hardware store. Try it in a 1/4-28 nut. If it fits then just need to get one of about the same cone length.

If it doesn't fit then try some of the metric nuts, fine thread.
Track of the Wolf has a good selection of nipples.

IronHand

It’s a 1/4 x 28 my friend.