Tradditional lube or more modern?

[madcratebuilder]

Ballistol, Eezox and my home made grease cookies for arbor grease.

 

[Many Klatch]

I started shooting so long ago that we didn't know that petroleum oils were bad. I have been using a mix of 1/2 Kerosene and 1/2 2-stroke motor oil to grease and lube all my guns whether modern or blackpowder. I have never had problems with gunk in the bore or problems with rusting between shooting sessions.

If you really want to go with a natural lube that would have been used back in the day, the only thing that I know that really seems to work is bear oil. That stuff never does seem to oxidize or go rancid if it has been properly manufactured.

Many Klatch

 

[Curt LaManna]

I use Ballistol and Wonderlube.

 

[bkovire]

so is that good or bad?

 

[token tory]

Why not! I use Hoppes #9 deodorant. :rotf:

 

[Billnpatti]

Hoppe's #9 deodorant???? Betcha that drives the wimmen wild with passion. :rotf:

 

[token tory]

Only the ones with "Big Man Hands!"

 

[token tory]

Update on the use of "Young's .303" in black powder pistols.
It works fine, no problems at all :thumbsup:

I went to the range this morning & ran several cylinders of BP sub through the Remmy & it was just as easy to clean as the veggie-based stuff, hopefully it works as well on real BP.

It doesn't smell like Ballistol, but I think it may not be petroleum-based as it smells a little like Pine-sol disinfectant. If it works as well as I think it might I'm good to go as it's also a cleaner when diluted (again similarly to Ballistol), & seems to remove BP fouling as easily as hot soapy water, but with a little less mess.
I'll pull the gun down in a day or so & see if it really is working & let you know if it's really a decent alternative. :applause:

 

[David W.]

You mean you don't think Ballistol smells like lillies in the field? :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

 

[Zonie]

You mean you don't think Ballistol smells like lillies in the field?
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What a nice name for a dog. Oh, you forgot to capitalize your dogs name. It should have been
Lillies.

:rotf:

 

[cowpoke1955]

Been using a light coat of 3 in 1 oil for 50 years. Never lost anything to rust :v

 

[David W.]

You mean you don't think Ballistol smells like lillies in the field?
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What a nice name for a dog. Oh, you forgot to capitalize your dogs name. It should have been
Lillies.

:rotf:

I guess Ballistol does smell like Lillies, but only when she's wet! :rotf:

 

[bkovire]

so 3 in 1 is ok to use?

 

[Dave Rosenthal]

Yeh,

3 in 1 Oil is fine!

Any good light oil will work on nipple threads and various surfaces....it's just a matter of preference.

I use Kleenbore myself, that's because I use it for the centerfire stuff too. Does a nice job! Sorta medium weight and it "stays" on the parts you oil, in any weather, hot or cold!

Dave

 

[bkovire]

:thumbsup: thanks. :hatsoff:

 

[CoyoteJoe]

Lots of folks swear by olive oil but it will thicken and dry to varnish if left for a month or two. This "anti-petroleum" movement is way off the mark. I have always preserved my guns with a good gun oil and I've never experienced any downside from petroleum. I suppose one could have a problem if they load up while oil is just dripping out of the bore but why would one do that anyway? A thin coat of gun oil is as good as pouring the barrel full and I run just one dry patch before loading. I've never seen the "black tar" I hear folks speak of and relate to petroleum. And by the way, Ballistol is a petroleum product.

 

[cowpoke1955]

Like Smokin.50 said, it's fine. My grandfather used it on all of his guns way before I was born. He never had one rust on him.

 

[madcratebuilder]

Lots of folks swear by olive oil but it will thicken and dry to varnish if left for a month or two. This "anti-petroleum" movement is way off the mark. I have always preserved my guns with a good gun oil and I've never experienced any downside from petroleum. I suppose one could have a problem if they load up while oil is just dripping out of the bore but why would one do that anyway? A thin coat of gun oil is as good as pouring the barrel full and I run just one dry patch before loading. I've never seen the "black tar" I hear folks speak of and relate to petroleum. And by the way, Ballistol is a petroleum product.

Petroleum oil is a only problem when it gets mixed with the combustion gases of black powder. that's when it can form carbon deposits. Using it to lube the outside surfaces of the revolver isn't a problem, just when it's in the barrel and or cylinders. I use gun oil on all my BP guns, particularly for any long term storage.

Ballistol is primary mineral oil, a refined petroleum by-product.

 

[CoyoteJoe]

What is Mineral Oil?
"Mineral oil is one of a number of inexpensive byproducts that are made from petroleum. Sometimes referred to as paraffin oil or Nujol, white mineral oil is composed of a blend of hydrocarbons that is not unlike that of petroleum jelly. The difference is that mineral oil is a liquid petrolatum, making it an ideal choice for a number of applications."
Paraffin is another petroleum product and was a common ingredient in bullet lubes use in blackpowder cartridges as was steam engine top cylinder oil, also a petroleum product.
When I began shooting cap & ball revolvers one of the recommended lubes atop the ball was water pump grease and revolvers seemed to shoot quite clean with that grease.
As Many Klatch said "we started shooting so long ago we didn't know petroleum was bad" and I would add we still don't know it. :haha:

 

[Dave Rosenthal]

My Daddy taught me to use oil, so I use oil!

Didn't they use oil to lubricate various parts of steam locomotives? Regular good 'ol oil been around for a long time.

All you need to do is to run a dry patch down the bore prior to loading. Storing the rifle muzzle-down doesn't hurt none either! That way none of the oil "pools" into the ignition area, regardless of the design or type of ignition :wink: .

Dave