Trade gun for grizzlies

[SPQR70AD]

From what I've read it's more likely when\if you encounter an old one who cannot find enough food to carry over for the winter and thus, goes after anything easy.....like people.

The bear spray thing is fine, but as the directions\suggestions state, practice before you go so you have some idea how to actually use it in an emergency. The other "thing" is the spray is a mist. If you're in the wrong wind direction (or if you're not holding the can properly) the mist will get in your eyes. Then where are you at?

A revolver, even a 357 stoked with the proper hard cast load will always be pointed in the right direction, and wind will have no effect on the travel of the bullet.

And like concealed carry, better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

bear spray comes out in a solid stream up to 40 ft. unless you are in a hurricane it aint blowing back in your face. a canadian study which covered bear attacks over decades using all sorts of firearms showed bear spray to be the best to repel a bear. no one likes to hear that cause they envision themselves firing a gun and killing the bear as it slides dead up to their feat. you know like in the movies

 

[waksupi]

2yrs ago a lady cyclist stopped an camped in Lincoln Mt. on the edge of town. Grizzly went into her tent killed her. I think Timothy Treadwell {not sure how to spell his last name} found out bears are not so predictable . I will say black bears don't bluff charge and if they come into your tent yes they will most likely try to kill you.

She wasn't on the EDGE of town, she was IN town, small as it is. Ovando. Elmer Keith's old jumping off point to head into the Bob Marshall Wilderness.

 

[waksupi]

You must know my X wife!~

I've read stories about California Grizzlies one of the most ill tempered critters in the lower 48.

 

[ChuckJonesWagon]

bear spray comes out in a solid stream up to 40 ft. unless you are in a hurricane it aint blowing back in your face. a canadian study which covered bear attacks over decades using all sorts of firearms showed bear spray to be the best to repel a bear. no one likes to hear that cause they envision themselves firing a gun and killing the bear as it slides dead up to their feat. you know like in the movies

I had a disc with a Yellowstone National Park Ranger about this very subject. If the wind is in the wrong direction, all it takes is a tiny amount to get in your eyes and you better pray the spray hits the bear….in those tiny bear eyes.

Me, I’ll take a 357 loaded with Corebond hard cast.

 

[Louisk]

I had a disc with a Yellowstone National Park Ranger about this very subject. If the wind is in the wrong direction, all it takes is a tiny amount to get in your eyes and you better pray the spray hits the bear….in those tiny bear eyes.

Me, I’ll take a 357 loaded with Corebond hard cast.

Bear spray in the eye is no joking matter. Don't ask me how I know that.

Don't know if the OP meant carrying a trade gun in modern times or back in the day when there were no high powered repeating sidearms or chemical warfare available for a backup but assuming the trade gun was all you had it would be good to have the judgment to determine whether or not it was a false charge before you fired your one shot, possibly without the desired results.

I imagine that back then you just had to have a bit of a fatalistic attitude, before you headed out into the hills, that a bear just might kill you.

 

[deerstalkert]

A grizzly is not going to attack you. Not because they absolutely won't, but such incidents are extremely rare - rare to the point it seems silly to discuss. If you worry you might be a victim of such a rare event, just carry spray. It seems outdoorsmen love to talk about that event and how to prepare. I've trespassed well within their domain and have watched them. It is a rare enough event that how to stop or kill them is a non-issue. A little common sense is all you need.
There will be those who disagree.

these fine folks would wish you were right if they could.

Brown bear​

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Name, age, sex	Date	Type	Location	Description
Tad Fujioka, 50, male[20]	October 29, 2024	Wild	Sitka, Alaska	Fujioka was reported overdue from a deer hunting trip on October 29, 2024. At approximately 11:30 on October 30, 2024 search teams located his remains.[21]
Doug Inglis, 62, male Jenny Gusse, 62, female[22]	September 29, 2023	Wild	Red Deer River Valley, Banff National Park, Alberta	A response team trained in wildlife attacks were mobilized, after receiving an alert from an inReach GPS device at about 8 p.m. on September 29, 2023, but weather conditions at the time did not allow for helicopter use, leading the team to travel to the location by ground through the night. The response team arrived at 1 a.m. on September 30 and found two deceased individuals and their dog (Tress), also killed. A grizzly bear displaying aggressive behavior was encountered and euthanized at the site.[23][24]
Amie Adamson, 48,[25] female	July 22, 2023	Wild	West Yellowstone, Montana	Adamson's body was discovered July 22, 2023 by a hiker on the Buttermilk Trail, located about eight miles west of the gateway community of West Yellowstone, Montana. Montana Department of Fish, Wildlife and Parks (MFWP) said July 23 that grizzly bear tracks were found at the scene and that the investigation is ongoing, while the coroner's office quickly determined that she died of severe blood loss due to a mauling.[26] The grizzly bear was later killed by wildlife staff after it broke into a home near West Yellowstone on September 2, 2023, accompanied with a cub. The officials communicated that the same bear had also injured a person near an Idaho state park back in 2020.[27]
Seth Michael Plant, 30, male	May 10, 2022	Wild	Joint Base Elmendorf–Richardson, Alaska	A group of soldiers were attacked by a sow while mapping out a training site for a land navigation course. Their presence prompted the bear to emerge from its den and knock down two of the soldiers; one later died.[28]
Craig Clouatre, 40, male	March 25, 2022	Wild	Six Mile Creek, Park County, Montana	Clouatre's maimed body was discovered on March 25.[29]
Leah Davis Lokan, 65, female	July 6, 2021	Wild	Ovando, Montana	Lokan was attacked and killed in her tent near her campsite in Powell County by a grizzly bear. The bear had wandered into the campsite multiple times before the attack. The grizzly bear was later identified and killed by wildlife officials.[30][31][32]
Barbara Collister, female, 68	May 25, 2021	Wild	Water Valley, Alberta	Collister was attacked and killed by a bear while walking on trails on her private property. An aggressive grizzly sow and a cub were observed shortly afterwards by wildlife officers nearby. A mature non-lactating female grizzly bear with worn teeth was then captured and euthanized, with DNA testing confirming this was the responsible bear. This attack occurred about 24 kilometres away from the May 4, 2021, attack that killed David Lertzman, but the DNA testing confirmed that different bears were involved.[33][34][35]
David Lertzman, 59, male	May 4, 2021	Wild	Waiparous, Alberta	Lertzman was attacked and killed by a bear, determined to be a female brown bear, while out jogging. The bear is suspected to have attacked Lertzman from behind, sending him off a 300m embankment.[36][37][38]
Charles "Carl" Mock, 40, male	April 17, 2021	Wild	West Yellowstone, Montana	Wilderness guide Charles "Carl" Mock, 40, was attacked on Thursday, April 15, 2021, while fishing north of West Yellowstone near Baker's Hold Campground. He was mauled by a 20-year-old male grizzly bear likely defending a moose carcass near Yellowstone National Park and died in a hospital on April 17. The offending bear was shot and killed by wildlife authorities after it charged them.[39]
Austin Pfeiffer, 22, male	September 20, 2020	Wild	Wrangell–St. Elias National Park and Preserve, Alaska	Pfeiffer was on a 10-day moose hunt with a friend near the Chisana River Drainage. He was cleaning a moose they had killed when the bear attacked without warning. Pfeiffer was killed by the bear.[40][41]
Daniel Schilling, 46, male	July 29, 2020	Wild	Hope, Alaska	Schilling was killed while clearing a path several miles behind his cabin. An empty can of bear spray was found at the scene. There were no witnesses to the attack.[42][43]

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[SPQR70AD]

since 1764 180 people have been killed by bears. one in 2 million chance to be killed by a black bear. 10 people a year die from snake bites way more then bears. just dont understand why guys have to make people think 100 people a week are killed by bears. what do they get out of it?

 

[oldschoolhunter55]

I think a flame thrower would work really well if you could get it deployed. lol.
I’ve been around grizzlies a bit but not a lot. I’ve had them feet from me outside my tent. Never really had a major problem with them. Black bears are a different story.
If I had the opportunity to hunt a grizzly with a .62 or other large bore smoothie and that was my only option. I would without hesitation

ugh. I applaud your bravery. think I will stick to hunting deer. lol. at least they can't climb the tree I'm in lol

 

[oldschoolhunter55]

these fine folks would wish you were right if they could.

Brown bear​

[edit]

Name, age, sex	Date	Type	Location	Description
Tad Fujioka, 50, male[20]	October 29, 2024	Wild	Sitka, Alaska	Fujioka was reported overdue from a deer hunting trip on October 29, 2024. At approximately 11:30 on October 30, 2024 search teams located his remains.[21]
Doug Inglis, 62, male Jenny Gusse, 62, female[22]	September 29, 2023	Wild	Red Deer River Valley, Banff National Park, Alberta	A response team trained in wildlife attacks were mobilized, after receiving an alert from an inReach GPS device at about 8 p.m. on September 29, 2023, but weather conditions at the time did not allow for helicopter use, leading the team to travel to the location by ground through the night. The response team arrived at 1 a.m. on September 30 and found two deceased individuals and their dog (Tress), also killed. A grizzly bear displaying aggressive behavior was encountered and euthanized at the site.[23][24]
Amie Adamson, 48,[25] female	July 22, 2023	Wild	West Yellowstone, Montana	Adamson's body was discovered July 22, 2023 by a hiker on the Buttermilk Trail, located about eight miles west of the gateway community of West Yellowstone, Montana. Montana Department of Fish, Wildlife and Parks (MFWP) said July 23 that grizzly bear tracks were found at the scene and that the investigation is ongoing, while the coroner's office quickly determined that she died of severe blood loss due to a mauling.[26] The grizzly bear was later killed by wildlife staff after it broke into a home near West Yellowstone on September 2, 2023, accompanied with a cub. The officials communicated that the same bear had also injured a person near an Idaho state park back in 2020.[27]
Seth Michael Plant, 30, male	May 10, 2022	Wild	Joint Base Elmendorf–Richardson, Alaska	A group of soldiers were attacked by a sow while mapping out a training site for a land navigation course. Their presence prompted the bear to emerge from its den and knock down two of the soldiers; one later died.[28]
Craig Clouatre, 40, male	March 25, 2022	Wild	Six Mile Creek, Park County, Montana	Clouatre's maimed body was discovered on March 25.[29]
Leah Davis Lokan, 65, female	July 6, 2021	Wild	Ovando, Montana	Lokan was attacked and killed in her tent near her campsite in Powell County by a grizzly bear. The bear had wandered into the campsite multiple times before the attack. The grizzly bear was later identified and killed by wildlife officials.[30][31][32]
Barbara Collister, female, 68	May 25, 2021	Wild	Water Valley, Alberta	Collister was attacked and killed by a bear while walking on trails on her private property. An aggressive grizzly sow and a cub were observed shortly afterwards by wildlife officers nearby. A mature non-lactating female grizzly bear with worn teeth was then captured and euthanized, with DNA testing confirming this was the responsible bear. This attack occurred about 24 kilometres away from the May 4, 2021, attack that killed David Lertzman, but the DNA testing confirmed that different bears were involved.[33][34][35]
David Lertzman, 59, male	May 4, 2021	Wild	Waiparous, Alberta	Lertzman was attacked and killed by a bear, determined to be a female brown bear, while out jogging. The bear is suspected to have attacked Lertzman from behind, sending him off a 300m embankment.[36][37][38]
Charles "Carl" Mock, 40, male	April 17, 2021	Wild	West Yellowstone, Montana	Wilderness guide Charles "Carl" Mock, 40, was attacked on Thursday, April 15, 2021, while fishing north of West Yellowstone near Baker's Hold Campground. He was mauled by a 20-year-old male grizzly bear likely defending a moose carcass near Yellowstone National Park and died in a hospital on April 17. The offending bear was shot and killed by wildlife authorities after it charged them.[39]
Austin Pfeiffer, 22, male	September 20, 2020	Wild	Wrangell–St. Elias National Park and Preserve, Alaska	Pfeiffer was on a 10-day moose hunt with a friend near the Chisana River Drainage. He was cleaning a moose they had killed when the bear attacked without warning. Pfeiffer was killed by the bear.[40][41]
Daniel Schilling, 46, male	July 29, 2020	Wild	Hope, Alaska	Schilling was killed while clearing a path several miles behind his cabin. An empty can of bear spray was found at the scene. There were no witnesses to the attack.[42][43]

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dang. that's a lot of people to me to die! I know they say it's rare to happen but if u was the one getting mauled. think they would think different

 

[oldschoolhunter55]

bear spray comes out in a solid stream up to 40 ft. unless you are in a hurricane it aint blowing back in your face. a canadian study which covered bear attacks over decades using all sorts of firearms showed bear spray to be the best to repel a bear. no one likes to hear that cause they envision themselves firing a gun and killing the bear as it slides dead up to their feat. you know like in the movies

I've decided. I'm scared of bears truth.

 

[Enfield58]

Y'all complaining about bears, snakes and other critters that can hurt you haven't spent enough time in the south. Three words: chiggers, mosquitos and ticks!

 

[olskool]

20 yds and he is running at you? if that happens I hope you are right with God,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

 

[2001guns]

When do you set the back trigger?

 

[waksupi]

Y'all complaining about bears, snakes and other critters that can hurt you haven't spent enough time in the south. Three words: chiggers, mosquitos and ticks!

We have skeeters and ticks, I'll see your chiggers, and raise you no-see-ums!

 

[Dan O]

2yrs ago a lady cyclist stopped an camped in Lincoln Mt. on the edge of town. Grizzly went into her tent killed her. I think Timothy Treadwell {not sure how to spell his last name} found out bears are not so predictable . I will say black bears don't bluff charge and if they come into your tent yes they will most likely try to kill you.

Didn't happen in Lincoln it was in Ovando.

 

[olgrumpy]

Ya my mistake.

 

[Louisk]

Y'all complaining about bears, snakes and other critters that can hurt you haven't spent enough time in the south. Three words: chiggers, mosquitos and ticks!

I'll take a few bears over a forest full of ticks any day.

 

[Coinneach]

I've read stories about California Grizzlies one of the most ill tempered critters in the lower 48.

Who could blame them living in California ?