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Dale Brown said:Runner said:Guys, hang it up. They outnumber you a lot more than was posted. It is that bad in the enthusiast groups that post online. It is much worse in reality. It is somewhere in the 20 to 1 category. The money machine supports the inlines because they produce revenue.
You are absolutely correct.
In-lines outnumber traditional muzzleloaders as do center-fire weapons. It will always be this way.
They are in a totally different class and I don't know why we keep trying to compare the two? Reality - get used to it, it's here to stay. :grin:
First I should state that I'm no longer a hunter...after growing up in Eastern OR and being spoiled with the game where I gerw up, I got turned off of hunting in Alaska as it is a traveling game that requires "MONEY". I can no longer head to the nearby hills for deer, black bear,Elk,quail,chuckers, squrils and marmots like I did in my childhood and teen years....
The point is, the rules in many of these states were crafted by muzzleloading hunters and shooters, some who I knen (or knew of) in the 70's and 80's... and the intent was to have a season to allow us to hunt (in historic camp and equipment if we wished) with the weapons of our forefathers, and needed the same kind of skill to make a clean kill that they used... not driving the roads slowly with a inline (or walking the field) with a weapon the in all intents is a modern centerfire rifle with out the brass.
It's time to realine the laws IMO. However the fact is, we lost the battle before firing a shot, as the firearms, bullet, and powder companies would bring their legal forces to bear against anyone who tried such a "stunt".It is a source of to much income to these companies now.
This fact still would not keep me from being "right" in the fact that no one 30 years ago saw this coming... that hunts were meant to be stalked with a traditional muzzleloader.
I remember when H&R brough out their single shot ML based off of their break open action... when some states created a rule requiring a exposed hammer... H&R cut a slot in the action so you could see the hammer... this was back in the 70's-early 80's as I remember... I also remember why the slot was needed... some sneaky ba****ds noted that H&R had a 45-70 in its lineup that had a range rod under the barrel, and looked just like the MUZZLER LOADER... it did not take too long before a few bad apples (please see"sneaky ba****ds") got busted for hunting in a ML season with a cartridge gun.
This is a classic case of the intent of a law being twisted to allow something not meant to be allowed unded the rules when they were first drafted.
Cheers for the land known for great hunting ( but I know better) :hmm:
David Teague