Sam squanch
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Yeah, the stories he tells of his uncles…..I think they are a little shady…..
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Sam squanch
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One of his uncles grew out his beard and hair and wore a sheet around. All the old folks thought he was Jesus returned and would feed him and let him sleep in the best bed they had. He wandered around for 2 years doing this. He said the older people were very superstitious back in the 1970’s…
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Between the likely gun laws and the government corruption I would not go there myself or take any guns or ammo.
Although someone here claiming PR gun laws have been relaxed may be somewhat accurate, that does not mean the current government there is following the Supreme Court ruling.
Heck, there are jurisdictions here that routinely disregard SC rulings favoring gun owners.
How many days and nights are you willing to risk spending in an offshore jail cell over a gun?
DON’T DO IT !!!
That is, of course, if it really makes it to the rabbit hole and not someone's personal collection.
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Folks got in the habit of loading shot gun shells full of black powder to take to Africa. Customs got wind of it and several people ended up in a south african prison for several years for sneaking in a class A explosive. I would expect TSA would go through your gear with a fine tooth comb if you had a BP gun along for the trip
I have been to Puerto Rico. Some fantastic people, more so outside the Cities where they were uniformly nice despite their poverty.
This is not directed so much at the OP as people in general.
Why anyone would even consider carry anything of any value let alone a gun into that place or any other country like that is beyond a head scratchier. Its on the edge of 3rd world country and as noted, police are extremly corrupt as are anyone in any position of authority.
Going into Mexico back in the early 70s I got special insurance on my vehicle (and we were only on the edge across the border). But my insurance did not cover Mexico and border states had companies that specialized in that area. By the way, people who fly aircraft into Mexico are out of their minds.
So, going to the insurance office, the person who did the forms flat told us, in Mexico you can leave the scene of an accident, its legal. If you can drive, you can and you will leave the scene3 of an accident. Do not linger, do not try to save anyone. You will wind up in Prison and we very well would never see you alive again.
Leave the scene, contact me as soon as you can and best if you come across the border first. We will make sure that anyone injured is taken care of, if you killed someone, we will ensure their survivors get the full payout listed. They will get nothing from the Authorities. Check your heart at the border. Phew. And yes we did have some locals try to create an incident which I removed us from.
Guns of any kind (and don't get hung up on US definitions) are beyond dogey in any place outside the US. Don't even get me going on transport of guns to AK through Canada. Loss of said gun and persona non grotta in Canada (also if you have a drunk driving conviction or a passenger does, yea). The good news is you won't wind up in a hell hole and die.
So no, don't even think about it. Often you are best off in not going at all. Groups are better but none of those places is a place you want any risk of prison.
I know states with tight gun rules are considered an anathema. They are Shagri La compar5ed to any foreign country or Puerto Rico. That applies to Guam which is also a "territory".
It is also worth noting, if you go on a Cruise Ship, you have no legal protections. Its all on the high seas and subject to the whim of the Cruise Ship Company which is not US registered. You can be assaulted with no recourse. Cruise ship might pay you a small amount to shut up.
The only law enforced on the high seas is via Warships and that only addresses Piracy.
This is not directed so much at the OP as people in general.
Why anyone would even consider carry anything of any value let alone a gun into that place or any other country like that is beyond a head scratchier. Its on the edge of 3rd world country and as noted, police are extremly corrupt as are anyone in any position of authority.
Going into Mexico back in the early 70s I got special insurance on my vehicle (and we were only on the edge across the border). But my insurance did not cover Mexico and border states had companies that specialized in that area. By the way, people who fly aircraft into Mexico are out of their minds.
So, going to the insurance office, the person who did the forms flat told us, in Mexico you can leave the scene of an accident, its legal. If you can drive, you can and you will leave the scene3 of an accident. Do not linger, do not try to save anyone. You will wind up in Prison and we very well would never see you alive again.
Leave the scene, contact me as soon as you can and best if you come across the border first. We will make sure that anyone injured is taken care of, if you killed someone, we will ensure their survivors get the full payout listed. They will get nothing from the Authorities. Check your heart at the border. Phew. And yes we did have some locals try to create an incident which I removed us from.
Guns of any kind (and don't get hung up on US definitions) are beyond dogey in any place outside the US. Don't even get me going on transport of guns to AK through Canada. Loss of said gun and persona non grotta in Canada (also if you have a drunk driving conviction or a passenger does, yea). The good news is you won't wind up in a hell hole and die.
So no, don't even think about it. Often you are best off in not going at all. Groups are better but none of those places is a place you want any risk of prison.
I know states with tight gun rules are considered an anathema. They are Shagri La compar5ed to any foreign country or Puerto Rico. That applies to Guam which is also a "territory".
It is also worth noting, if you go on a Cruise Ship, you have no legal protections. Its all on the high seas and subject to the whim of the Cruise Ship Company which is not US registered. You can be assaulted with no recourse. Cruise ship might pay you a small amount to shut up.
The only law enforced on the high seas is via Warships and that only addresses Piracy.
BP and percussion caps are classified as an explosive by the USDOT and as such the USDOT forbids explosives on commercial aircraft.
I have flown quite a bit with ML and modern arms in the USA and to other countries. The ONLY time I got checked by a TSA person was in Fairbanks AK. They did not like the locks on my gun case. I had to go through security to buy new locks from the gift shop, and then back to TSA with the new locks, then back through security. Thank God my plane was delayed by 1.5 hours, or I would have missed the flight. Obviously, it was a local issue.
My gun case and locks met the requirements, and I filed a complaint for the harassment.
For AU, you have to have a permit to get your gun in and a permit to get your gun out. Lots of stress.. I am thankful that the officer that stopped us as my buddy was speeding to the airport in AU did not know we had rifles in the car and it was dark.
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I have flown quite a bit with ML and modern arms in the USA and to other countries. The ONLY time I got checked by a TSA person was in Fairbanks AK. They did not like the locks on my gun case. I had to go through security to buy new locks from the gift shop, and then back to TSA with the new locks, then back through security. Thank God my plane was delayed by 1.5 hours, or I would have missed the flight. Obviously, it was a local issue.
My gun case and locks met the requirements, and I filed a complaint for the harassment.
For AU, you have to have a permit to get your gun in and a permit to get your gun out. Lots of stress.. I am thankful that the officer that stopped us as my buddy was speeding to the airport in AU did not know we had rifles in the car and it was dark.
Fleener
The issue is laws are worthless if enforced by corrupted individuals.
I had to fly to the Philippines to do some work for my company. I had parts and tools. My manager asked me what I would do if I got called on it by Airport customs. Abandon them. We had a tech get shook down on an electronics board. Do not try to bribe your way out, just give them the stuff.
Someplace like AU you can count on them abiding by the rules and laws. Other places no and its not worth it, plane (pun) and simple.
If TSA in Alaska can do that kind of crap, then anyone can. TSA in AK deals with guns constantly in State as well as outbound to the lower 48.
I had to fly to the Philippines to do some work for my company. I had parts and tools. My manager asked me what I would do if I got called on it by Airport customs. Abandon them. We had a tech get shook down on an electronics board. Do not try to bribe your way out, just give them the stuff.
Someplace like AU you can count on them abiding by the rules and laws. Other places no and its not worth it, plane (pun) and simple.
If TSA in Alaska can do that kind of crap, then anyone can. TSA in AK deals with guns constantly in State as well as outbound to the lower 48.
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I took my DGR to Customs last week for an upcoming flight. We had a thread on here recently about the same thing, so i asked him.
The agent told me No Way, No How is black powder legal on a plane, even in checked bagged and as ammo or firearms.
It is considered an explosive. Getting caught means getting drug off the plane, jailed and taken to Federal Court. He showed me the paperwork, I took his word for it.
