I have a double set double phase trigger. When you set the trigger the front one is WAY too light.The hammer will stay cocked but as soon as you "touch" the trigger it fires.I have tried adjusting the screw but it does not help.Any ideas what the problem is or how to stiffen the trigger pull ?
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Trigger Help ... please
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Sorry about that Sully,
I reread your post and I see that you have already adjusted the screw out.
Is this a new problem, something that just started happening on an old gun? Or is this a newly acquired gun?
If it's a new problem with a gun you have had for a long time I would suspect wear, like maybe the adjustment screw is digging into the front trigger.
If this is a new or newly acquired gun, is the trigger plate shaped and set correctly?
Just trying to think of things...
Spot
I reread your post and I see that you have already adjusted the screw out.
Is this a new problem, something that just started happening on an old gun? Or is this a newly acquired gun?
If it's a new problem with a gun you have had for a long time I would suspect wear, like maybe the adjustment screw is digging into the front trigger.
If this is a new or newly acquired gun, is the trigger plate shaped and set correctly?
Just trying to think of things...
Spot
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Could be anything from dirt/crud in the mechanism, to sear wear. you need to pull the trigger, and clean it first before doing anything else. Inspect the sear for wear,/rounding off. If this is the problem, it may be stoned flat again, though it may have worn trhough any case hardening. It also maybe something as simple as being to close to the sear pawl, causing an early release-they have a pill for that. Oh, that's another issue :rotf: Start with cleaning, and retry.
Bill
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Bill
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IMO, most people aren't aware of how light the front trigger "pull" is when the rear trigger is "set".
That's why whenever I let someone shoot one of my rifles I always make sure the hammer is down, then cock the rear trigger and tell them to lightly pull the front trigger. Most are amazed.
These double set double phase triggers that I own include TC, Lymen, Davis and L&R.
If the screw between the triggers is backed out, that's as good as it gets. The only way to make the pull harder is to replace the front trigger spring with a heavier, non-standard spring.
If your trigger is a double phase, you should be able to fire the gun without setting the rear trigger. If this trigger pull is too heavy, you can work on lightening it up a bit by reducing the width of the sear spring in the lock.
zonie
That's why whenever I let someone shoot one of my rifles I always make sure the hammer is down, then cock the rear trigger and tell them to lightly pull the front trigger. Most are amazed.
These double set double phase triggers that I own include TC, Lymen, Davis and L&R.
If the screw between the triggers is backed out, that's as good as it gets. The only way to make the pull harder is to replace the front trigger spring with a heavier, non-standard spring.
If your trigger is a double phase, you should be able to fire the gun without setting the rear trigger. If this trigger pull is too heavy, you can work on lightening it up a bit by reducing the width of the sear spring in the lock.
zonie
This lock is one made by Ron Long. It is on a friends Hawken. He is going to order a new spring and both triggers. As it is, you can shoot it without setting the trigger although it is a bit heavy. But it is DANGEROUS when set. Thanks for the ideas. I appreciate it.
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I bought a used 62 cal. flinter with a trigger like that, I set the rear trigger and the front is about 4 oz. pull. I LOVE it. At first I was worried it was so light. afer owning it for a year now I would'nt do without it. My trigger is an L&R, about a 25 year old gun. Shoot it, get used to it you'll love it also. Asuuming that yours is not broke or worn it shouldn't be dangerous.
Remove the triggers and check how much engagement there is when "on set" and does the adjustment screw when backed out allow a lot of engagement? There should be flat surfaces on the sear surfaces of both the front trigger and the lever and if not, then there's some wear resulting in too light a pull. If wear is present then the contacting surfaces are too soft. Possibly you're not accustomed or familiar w/ the light pull of set triggers?.....Fred
another possibility is some kind of impingement because of the inlet, not allowing the trickers to fully "set". Check to see you haven't over-tightened a tang bolt etc or something that would draw the trickers up more into the mortise. make sure there's room to play in there.
Sully, have you figured out the problem yet? I'm following this thread with interest, as my wife's rifle exhibits the same symptoms. When removed from the gun, the screws work fine to adjust the triggers, but when installed, the triggers are "magically" too light. I'm thinking that Rich's post may be on the mark. May do some more diagnostic work tonight!
I have not found the answer yet, I have new triggers and trigger spring on it's way. Even with the triggers removed and the adjustment screw removed the trigger when set is way tooo sensitive. If you just touch the trigger it will release.The sear looks to have quite a bit of engagement and is flat. It May be the spring ( I Hope )
