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Finished up my new fowler yesterday and fired it one time. cleaned the barrel the way I do my rifles several wet patches several dry patches then a patch soaked in bear grease. I always go back the next day with another grease patch just to be sure everything is good. I ran a patch through the fowler today and it cam out real dirty. I started running solvent patches through it and after 20 or 30 patches it is still not 100% clean. I finally gave up and ran a patch soaked in rem oil. It does not look like BP fouling and now I am wondering...... Does the lead shot leave a residue in the barrel? Maybe I will search for a 16 gauge brass brush. Looking down the barrel it looks clkean but I know it is not


HELP!
 

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In fifty years I’ve never got a patch to come out virgin white. I use fill the barrel and dump and repeat method. I’m OCD about cleaning, and check my guns regularly. And always get a little gray.
I use mink oil and gun oil mixed to oil my barrels and mink oil oxidizes brown looking like rust, spent years trying to get that out.
I learned not to sweat the small stuff,
Still hard, did I mention I was OCD about cleaning
 
That's a lot of cleaning patches!
I shoot my smoothbores a lot and yes they can take more work to clean than rifles. But not that much.
First remove the lock and ramrod. Then stick a toothpick in the touch hole, pour water (soapy warm if you wish) and thumb over the muzzle, turn upside down and back again, swishing a few times. Pour out and repeat a couple times. Turn it upside down and lean it against a wall or table, securely, and let it drain while you clean the lock.
Then go back to your fowler and use Windex on a few cleaning patches.
It takes twenty minutes max.
You will be happy.
 
That's a lot of cleaning patches!
I shoot my smoothbores a lot and yes they can take more work to clean than rifles. But not that much.
First remove the lock and ramrod. Then stick a toothpick in the touch hole, pour water (soapy warm if you wish) and thumb over the muzzle, turn upside down and back again, swishing a few times. Pour out and repeat a couple times. Turn it upside down and lean it against a wall or table, securely, and let it drain while you clean the lock.
Then go back to your fowler and use Windex on a few cleaning patches.
It takes twenty minutes max.
You will be happy.
Thanks
 
Finished up my new fowler yesterday and fired it one time. cleaned the barrel the way I do my rifles several wet patches several dry patches then a patch soaked in bear grease. I always go back the next day with another grease patch just to be sure everything is good. I ran a patch through the fowler today and it cam out real dirty. I started running solvent patches through it and after 20 or 30 patches it is still not 100% clean. I finally gave up and ran a patch soaked in rem oil. It does not look like BP fouling and now I am wondering...... Does the lead shot leave a residue in the barrel? Maybe I will search for a 16 gauge brass brush. Looking down the barrel it looks clkean but I know it is not


HELP!
Bare lead shot will lead the barrel. My black powder shells with no shot up lead my breech loading shotguns. I use hoppies and a brass brush on a shotgun cleaning rod. Do not use the ramrod.

This is my modified skychief muzzleloading load that has a 1/2 inch olive oil soaked wad on top of wad column.
 

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I have a harder time cleaning my smothbore than my rifle.. They get filthy.
Just clean it the best you can and call it good. I know it can drive some mad, but its just a gun....
 
That's a lot of cleaning patches!
I shoot my smoothbores a lot and yes they can take more work to clean than rifles. But not that much.
First remove the lock and ramrod. Then stick a toothpick in the touch hole, pour water (soapy warm if you wish) and thumb over the muzzle, turn upside down and back again, swishing a few times. Pour out and repeat a couple times. Turn it upside down and lean it against a wall or table, securely, and let it drain while you clean the lock.
Then go back to your fowler and use Windex on a few cleaning patches.
It takes twenty minutes max.
You will be happy.
Have been using Windex for 25+ years, I just don’t know why other people don’t use it. In between shots at the range for a fast clean out works wonderfully.
 
The gray is graphite used to coat the powder these days. I use the water (cool) swish method referenced above. Never had leading issues EVER. I also use tow instead of patches. Lube with Ballistol.
 
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