Turner Kirkland rifle.

[andy52]

Guys, I'm at a loss with this rifle I've worked on this lock several times, polished all the internals, replace the frizzen roller, and other things, and just can't get this lock to function properly.
So my thoughts are leaning toward sending it off to someone more knowledgeable for a rebuild or a replacement.
I've already talked to Dixie gun works and they just laughed when I asked for parts. They told me the gun was made in 1956 and there are no parts currently available and haven't been in years.

 

[rchas]

Percussion or Flint? I still have parts for a couple of Dixie Italian percussion locks from the 70's. Pictures would help.

 

[andy52]

Percussion or Flint? I still have parts for a couple of Dixie Italian percussion locks from the 70's. Pictures would help.

My bad, flint. It's one of the very early ones made in Belgium. I'll post up some pics tomorrow.

 

[Trot]

Those locks weren't the best quality. You could try the Log Cabin Shop, they do good work on locks.

 

[andy52]

Those locks weren't the best quality. You could try the Log Cabin Shop, they do good work on locks.

I've considered them and cabin creek. I've run out of patience with this lock I'd really like to keep the rifle it shoots well when it works which isn't often.
Here are a few pics as requested I don't think it will help solve the issues though.

 

[rchas]

Doesn't look like anything in my parts bin.... I think you need a new lock. I would get a print copy of Track's catalog, it has full size pictures of locks that you could compare. Chambers also sells a "gunmakers lock" where the lockplate is a bar of metal that you can shape to match an inlet.

 

[Phil Coffins]

And I thought my Dixie lock was crude! Andy, it maybe time to let go on that one.
BD12E310-8E5B-48BE-B86A-A8A54392E434 by Oliver Sudden, on Flickr

 

[Flint62Smoothie]

... and just can't get this lock to function properly.

Can you clearly explain what you mean by that? Spark or no spark, i.e., an ignition problem? Catching on the 1/2-cock notch or weak spring, i.e., a mechanical problem?

 

[andy52]

Of the things you mentioned, the only one it doesn't do is stick on half cock.
sometimes the cock doesn't hit hard enough to spark others the frizzen sticks when hit.
The bridle seems to be seated incorrectly with a bigger gap on one side even when tightened down.....do I need to go on?

 

[andy52]

Doesn't look like anything in my parts bin.... I think you need a new lock. I would get a print copy of Track's catalog, it has full size pictures of locks that you could compare. Chambers also sells a "gunmakers lock" where the lockplate is a bar of metal that you can shape to match an inlet.

Yep, I talk to the log cabin shop today and I'll be sending it to them for evaluation.
If it's not salvageable I'll get the gun maker's lock and cut the lock plate to fit.
I've only got about 350 in the gun and it shoots very well when it works so a new lock wouldn't put the rifle out of my price range.

 

[andy52]

And I thought my Dixie lock was crude! Andy, it maybe time to let go on that one.
BD12E310-8E5B-48BE-B86A-A8A54392E434 by Oliver Sudden, on Flickr

I'm sending it out tomorrow for evaluation if it's not fixable I'll build a new lock.
This rifle precedes Dixie by several years.