TVM is having a special on their kits

[oldarmy]

TVM. The Jack Gardner company is having a great sale on some of their kits.
I bought a poor boy kit in .32
for $320 delivered.
That is close too what you would pay for a GPR.
They have
Lancaster and Virginia kits for $350---$370 del.
If you are thinking about a new project he is worth a look.

 

[Jon in MI]

do you have a link? I can't seem to find one.

Jon

 

[Bob Riegl]

Try this site TVM Manufacturing This what I believe is Jack Garner's site. The relationship between this and Matt Avance a/k/a TVM is unknown to me. ::

 

[oldarmy]

I didn't see the specials on Jack's website. He send out a flyer to his old customers. I just thought that it was a great deal and wanted to share it.
Call him up and ask him about them.

 

[big bore 75]

the address is: Tennessee Valley MFG. 890 CR 400, Corinth, ms. 38834 phone no. : 662-286-5014. good stuff ,bb75

 

[CrackStock]

I just got an early Virginia kit from Jack and spoke with him today. The special is not advertised on his site, but has traveled through customers and word of mouth.

TVM and TVM? There was a TVM in Corinth that was making guns. Several people did work on guns over the years for Jack and some have gone out on their own. Jack was thinking of retiring to just manufacture parts a few years back and sold a portion of the business to Matt and Toni who are members here. He recently went back into making a few guns through his son in law. He still likes the parts business and this is the reason for the kits.

I have guns from Jack Garner, Matt Avance and Jackie Brown. I like all of them and the guns that they built.

CS

 

[str8sh2ter]

CrackStock;is the above posted ph# correct to contact him?

 

[CrackStock]

http://www.tennesseevalleymanufacturing.com/catalog.php?category=tpbriflekit

I just went there and this was the addie.

CS

 

[oldarmy]

I have a .32 tenn poor boy I just bought from him.
siler small flint, GM 3/4".32 42", nice wood. with the milled out ramrod of course.. sights, misc parts.. No buttplate,entry thimble,patch box,
All told not bad for $320 del.

 

[CrackStock]

I know that some people do not like the milled out back end of the ramrod channel, but I like it. Makes ofr an less expensive stock since there is no wastage upping the costs and it lets you glass this otherwise weak area while you glass bed the barrel. Not period correct, but makes for a good build.

CS

 

[oldarmy]

I don't have a problem with the ramrod slot either.
Just wanted to let every one know about it. I am either going to put in brownells glass bed, or if I feel lucky, cut a piece of wood to fit and use wood glue

 

[kmeyer]

I am confused with the term "Milled Ram Rod Channel". I have done 2 kits from Pecatonica and the ram rod hole was pre drilled on them both. How are these from TVM different? Thanks.

 

[CrackStock]

K

When you got your stock, was there a large slot under the barrel near the lock mortice or was there wood all of the way to the breach? Many stock carvers drill the channel part way into the stock and use a router or milling machine to cut the last of the ramrod channel in the critical area where it passes the lock and breach.

Then most builders glass bed this opening after protecting the ramrod channel. They also bed the breach at the same time.

This strengthens the aea where there is the least amount of wood.

CS

 

[Zonie]

Pecatonica Rivers stocks all have the ramrod hole drilled to full depth.
This leaves the bottom of the barrel channel a solid uninterupted piece which IMO adds strength to the forestock.
With these stocks, the builder doesn't have to add a glued in strip of wood to replace the wood that was removed by the endmill.

Kmeyer: If your still having difficulties envisioning this, just imagine the actual ramrod hole where it enters the stock going only about 5 or 6 inches deep.
Now imagine someone using an endmill in the bottom of the barrel channel making a plunge cut down to intersect the short ramrod hole and then feeding the endmill along the bottom of the barrel channel until it gets to the lock.
This removes all of the wood in the area, leaving a groove for the ramrod to slide into.
It also leaves no wood in the bottom flat of the barrel channel in this area. :hmm:

 

[kmeyer]

I understand now. Thanks guys. I'm not sure what I think of that. My initial thought is I would rather have it done the way Pecatonica does. I was kinda thinking of trying one of Jack's kits though next. I would rather not get into bedding at this time though. Is this how TOTW does it or do they drill it all the way like Pecatonica?

 

My jaeger kit from TOTW had the ramrod hole drilled, not routed out.

 

[oldarmy]

TOTW doesn't mill out the ramrod channel. At least not the 2 kits I have bought from them.
However the wood from TVM is always very nice. His P+ stocks kick A and the price is right.
It's always a trade off.
I ordered TVM's kit,but knew what I was getting and was not dissapointed.

 

[kmeyer]

Is this "Miller Channel" a real pain to deal with? Is it just a matter of cutting a strip of wood and epoxying it in there channel?

 

[oldarmy]

It's easy to fix. :g
After I have the barrel. lug and lock inletted. I put the ramrod in the hole. Cover it with a thin piece of paper. I usually coat the ramrod with the release also,
Then just use brownell's glass bedding or JB Weld to fill in the space even to the bottom of the channel and it's done and no one will ever notice.
You can bed the lug and barrel at the same time if you removed a little too much wood while inletting them. It makes for a nice strong stock.
But of course it's not traditional.
I have always believed in glassbedding rifles. I think if done correctly it can turn a average grouping rifle into a tack shooter. At least that's what I have found with centerfire rifles. I don't know about Flinters. I put it in a couple of them, because I removed too much wood :cursing:

 

[CrackStock]

TOTW does not make parts. They purchase parts from various suppliers to resell to the end users. They do this through their fullscale catalog which is a great help.

I have seen stocks that clearly came from Pecatonica River as they had the PR designations on them.

As to the filling of the milled ramrod channel, I understand that this is not the period correct method, but it is a stronger method. How do I know? Just look at my name.

CS