Type of weapon native Americans fighting with the French use?

[William sloan]

And were they trimmed in iron or brass? Thanks I will be following.

 

[FlinterNick]

I would say both.

 

[Cruzatte]

Either shows up on fusils in museum and private collections, as well as those estate inventories, shipping manifests, official documents and orders from merchants.

 

[Loyalist Dave]

Type of weapon native Americans fighting with the French use?

Whatever they can get their hands upon!
Indians fighting on the French might still from time to time trade with the British, as well as the French. Depending on the European policy, the Indians might side with those that agreed to trade them Fusils. French fusils were often steel mounted.
You would also, perhaps, have seen some "Dog Locks" if a fusil or musket were kept in working order and handed down.

Doglock musket Lock

Doglocks were actually kept on muskets by the Swedes on into the beginning of the 19th century. Here is an example of such a lock on a rifle, thought the Indians probably would be more inclined to getting a smoothbore.

LD

 

[Alexander Efremenko]

Find a copy of " the French trade gun in north America " to look at.
Many, many, references and examples

 

[William sloan]

Find a copy of " the French trade gun in north America " to look at.
Many, many, references and examples

Thank you I will

 

[Beerd2]

As far as firearms, they probably were not opposed to using battle field pick ups.
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[Belleville]

I also highly recommend Kevin's book "The French Trade Gun in North America". It may be hard to find. Told Kevin about it and he was going to contact the publisher to see if they would print more. Haven't heard back from him.

The Indians seemed not to pick up military muskets, they being heavy and ate a lot of powder and lead, as not a lot of muskets parts are found at village sites.

 

[Loyalist Dave]

The Indians seemed not to pick up military muskets, they being heavy and ate a lot of powder and lead, as not a lot of muskets parts are found at village sites.

Yes this is one of those things that people assert, that the Indians need only to pick up a musket from a dead soldier.
Yet we have lots of evidence of fusil and trade guns found at native sites, but not musket parts.
Which may mean they collected a few (IF they were on the victorious side), but appear to have traded them or sold them off. Perhaps for the lighter, more easily carried and more economic to shoot, Fusil de Chase or English trade gun. ?

Also, IF a Native was the victor, would he want to keep and use the gun taken from the losers?

IF the natives in times of non-hostility traded with the British, for example, the Brits had a policy not to vend muskets to natives. The native was then in possession of "the King's property". Might make for a tense situation. The Indians would more than likely know of this prohibition, and would likely ditch the musket if collected from a battle for a more useful firearm.

LD

 

[Grenadier1758]

Admittedly Dave, there is a lot of speculation in your post based on hard evidence of known inventory of native sites. Based on documentation of British trade policy. Then, too, I have carried one of those heavy Long Land Patterns and based on that experience, I think that the Natives, being discriminating customers would have preferred the lighter trade guns either French or British.

 

[Smokey Plainsman]

Handle a nice fusil or lithe trade gun, then a big honkin Military musket, and let me know which you’d like to tote.

 

[Loyalist Dave]

Handle a nice fusil or lithe trade gun, then a big honkin Military musket, and let me know which you’d like to tote

Especially when it's also documented that the Indians and in Canada as well as French Canadians regularly took moose with 20 gauge fusils. No reason not to opt for the much handier firearms.

LD

 

[Belleville]

Attached might help.

 

[William sloan]

Attached might help.

Thank you

 

[toot]

I cannot get the attachment to come up?

 

[Belleville]

I cannot get the attachment to come up?

See your conversations.

 

[William sloan]

I also highly recommend Kevin's book "The French Trade Gun in North America". It may be hard to find. Told Kevin about it and he was going to contact the publisher to see if they would print more. Haven't heard back from him.

The Indians seemed not to pick up military muskets, they being heavy and ate a lot of powder and lead, as not a lot of muskets parts are found at village sites.

Haven’t found one as yet

 

[Belleville]

Haven’t found one as yet

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B005Z91O4W?condition=new&tag=bookfinder-test-b2-20

 

[William sloan]

Checked out the sires. Books look to be written by Kevin Smith. Please correct me if I am wrong.

 

[Grumpa]

I am reminded of a thread from years back where it was pointed out that the Indians left the Brown Bess muskets lay on the field after Braddock's defeat in the Battle of the Monongahela...they much preferred rifles, even then.

Richard/Grumpa