Unknown firearm please help

[Gregorv]

I was recently gifted this firearm by my grandfather.

He knew knew nothing about this gun and I am ver interested to find out more about it

So if you could please help me with absolutely any information on this firearm it would be much appreciated

http://youtu.be/wu0I73LttMA

 

[Artificer]

I am no expert on these guns.

Miquelet Lock, looks like Turkish Inlay work, but the dragon looks Asian. I think the extra long grip/stock was meant for support to fire the gun from camel back. Sorry I can't be sure.

Scots Wha Hae,
Gus

 

[Gregorv]

Thank you very much I really appreciate it, if anyone else knows anything I'm all ears

 

It may be a wall hanger for the tourist market.

 

[Alden]

That'd be some tourist wall hanger! But it clearly is decoratively ornate and Eastern. Presentation piece is my vote.

 

[Wes/Tex]

Isn't that the NCO model of the Eunuch Grenadier Guards?




1..2..3....bwah-ha-ha! :rotf:

 

[TFoley]

I am no expert on these guns.

Miquelet Lock, looks like Turkish Inlay work, but the dragon looks Asian. I think the extra long grip/stock was meant for support to fire the gun from camel back. Sorry I can't be sure.

Scots Wha Hae,
Gus

I agree about rather odd ethnic mix of workmanship, but the enormously heavy and out of proportion pommel looks far more like a ceremonial club than a mounting for a camel-gun.

tac

 

[Captjoel]

My first thoughts after viewing are that this pistol came out of India. It may be old but condition may put it in Victorian times or much newer and used only for ceremonial or wall hanger. Just random thoughts.....Joel

 

[MacRob46]

My first thought is "tourist" because it looks exotic enough to attract that kind of buyer and impractical enough to turn off a real gun person. But, frankly I don't know what it is, have never seen anything remotely like it and am not sure I ever want to again!

 

[Artificer]

I am no expert on these guns.

Miquelet Lock, looks like Turkish Inlay work, but the dragon looks Asian. I think the extra long grip/stock was meant for support to fire the gun from camel back. Sorry I can't be sure.

Scots Wha Hae,
Gus

I agree about rather odd ethnic mix of workmanship, but the enormously heavy and out of proportion pommel looks far more like a ceremonial club than a mounting for a camel-gun.

tac

That is quite possible, though it still looks to me like the bottom of the extended grip was used to steady it on the front part of a camel "saddle" or whatever they called them. However, I am just guessing.

Gus

 

[hawkeye2]

Supporting the butt on your camel saddle would be a good way to shoot your camel in the back of his head. :grin:

The video was OK but panned too fast. Still photos that could be studied would be better.

Does the lock & trigger function? Can you **** and "fire" it?

Victorian or later decorative wall hanger is my first impression.

 

[Artificer]

Supporting the butt on your camel saddle would be a good way to shoot your camel in the back of his head. :grin:

Well, Jezail guns were rested just a little ahead of the lock and supporting hand grip on a fork at the front of a camel saddle and one could say the same thing about them - that one had to be careful not to shoot the camel's head. (Not shooting the head of a horse with a smaller pistol/revolver than the one shown was something Cavalry also had to be wary of along with not shooting your horse with a carbine.)

Though not as many as the long gun Jezails, there were Jezail pistols and pistol carbines made. The front of this pistol/pistol carbine could have rested on the fork and the long butt rested against the front of the saddle. However, this is pure conjecture on my part from the tiny bit I know of Jezails.

The piece could just be a ceremonial, tourist or decorator piece.

Gus

 

[Heelerau]

Gus,
I agree with you it is an Indian tourist piece, may he Victorian Era.

Cheers

Heelerau

 

[Wes/Tex]

One thing to keep in mind is that a lot of the old trade pieces were made with military surplus locks. This was more common with British and Dutch trade sources. Some of the guns of Dutch origin had some really old miquelet and snaphaunce locks...it's alwasy worth giving them a close look.

 

[rickystl]

And you guys thought "I" own some strange looking guns! :haha: Never seen anything quite like this.
The dragon head stock and the style of the pearl inlays look Southeast Asian. The miquelet lock and barrel look Balkan/Ottoman. But the decoration on the barrel and lock are not Ottoman style. :hmm:
I wish we had more still photos to study it more. The workmanship looks to be too good for a Tourist item. Or even a Victorian era piece.
From the very short video, this appears to be a presentation or Ceremonial piece.
Hope you can post more still photos. There's a decent chance myself and others can I.D. the origin. Does the lock actually work? Thanks, Rick. :hatsoff:

 

[Kubur]

Hi
I saw the same in Ankara.
First, it is Turkish / Ottoman style.
Normally for decoration and tourists
but yours is of a very quality
the **** for example
so i dont know if it is a touristic piece
but it is Turkish and not Far eastern

best

 

Hi
I saw the same in Ankara.
First, it is Turkish / Ottoman style.
Normally for decoration and tourists
but yours is of a very quality
the **** for example
so i dont know if it is a touristic piece
but it is Turkish and not Far eastern

best

Why
do
people
type
like
this?
:wink:

 

[coloradoclyde]

It is possible that he is using a smart phone and that's just how it converts. A smart phone is the only way for many people to access the internet.

 

It is possible that he is using a smart phone and that's just how it converts. A smart phone is the only way for many people to access the internet.

That must be it. :thumbsup:

 

[Luzur]

Ive seen a similar piece on auction here in Sweden, although that gun had a Wolf head on the butt, this one almost looks similar to that so my vote goes also to "tourist trap" gun from the Middle-East/North Africa.

But as mentioned in the thread, the lock and pipe could be original english/european parts, if its possible unscrew the lock (and pipe) and look for stamps or markings.