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Update on GPR 54 With Light Loads

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BrownBear

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Since I got the percussion GPR 54 I've been sorting out its abilities with light loads for snowshoe hares (as discussed in a previous thread). The results have been in for a week or so now, and it's rolling bunny heads with enthusiasm so I thought it was time to report back.

I worked down to 30 grains of FFF with no problems. From 60 grains all the way down to 30 it will land 3-shot groups into or under an inch at 30 yards, roughly the field limit of my sighting and shooting skills for hares. The rifle is so easy to hold and shoot that I can come close to that kind of accuracy most of the time on my hind legs, too.

As I continued to decrease the charge the point of impact started dropping dramatically. Rather than go to hacking on the front sight and curdle things for later use with heavy loads, I mounted the optional adustable rear sight (included in the box with the rifle). At 40 grains I had the adjustment screw backed all the way out, except the last turn, to get point of impact where I wanted it. With 30 grain loads, the screw is too short to allow raising point of impact. As it is, I'll probably have to add LocTite or something to keep from losing it with 40 grian loads.

I've settled on the 40 grain load for hunting for the time being, though the gun certainly shoots well with less. The ball really splatters bunny heads at that speed, but it probably would with a lot lighter loads, too. For an indication of how much gee whiz 40 grains has, on one shot the ball went through the head and hit an alder trunk about 3" in diameter roughly ten feet behind the hare. Passed right through that, too. I followed a spray of wood splinters and found the ball not too far beyond laying on the snow. Pretty chewed up, but half intact.

I'm debating whether to install a longer sight adjustment screw for the time being so I can slow things down a little further, but until I get around to it the 40 grain FFF load is a serious hare gitter.
 
Now you're cooking with gas!!! Let us know how it goes if you do back the load on down. My experience with light loads has always been postitive, but it's good to hear from others as well.
 
quote:Originally posted by BrownBear:
I followed a spray of wood splinters and found the ball not too far beyond laying on the snow. Pretty chewed up, but half intact.Melt that round ball and recast it, you just got another 1/2 a shot...
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It's sitting on my mantle with all the other bullets I've recovered from game over the years. Have to admit it's the first I've ever recovered from a rabbit, though!

Makes me wonder if the rabbits are getting tuffer and I need something bigger than 54. Would you recommend 58 or 69? Should I start carrying a pistol for backup?
 
brown bear I don't carry a backup when I small game hunt but was charged by a bull chipmunk once luckily i dodged just in time
weasel
 
Weasel, if it was close enough that you could tell it was a bull, then you did dodge just in time.
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quote:Originally posted by weasel:
brown bear I don't carry a backup when I small game hunt but was charged by a bull chipmunk once luckily i dodged just in time
weasel
How come we never get to see this kind of "EDGE OF THE SEAT" action on the hunting shows on TV?
 
If that adjustable sight is one with a single screw that puches the sight up by bearing on the barrel, be carefull in the brush, they are prone to move and distort windage, (don't take a bump well)
 
That's exactly what it is, tg. Thanks for the head's up!

I've decided that even if I don't put a longer screw in it for a little more elevation with lighter loads, I need to put more of a spring under it to keep the tension. I've come close to losing the screw twice already.
 
quote:Originally posted by BrownBear:
I've come close to losing the screw twice already. Here's an idea...
How about buying another front sight, one for reduced loads only?

You can file it down to a nub and drift it in when you need it, then drift in the regular hight sight blade when you want to go deer hunting...

I know that will mean more shooting envolved, wait a second, that's a good thing...
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Yeah musketman. That's my long term move. I live a little beyond nowhere, so it's not something you walk in and buy, much less order with any hope of seeing soon. I just filed down the front sight of a friend's Pedersoli Frontier Carbine 50 cal (really sweet gun!), and I'm taking a replacement for my GPR onto the same order. Check the General category for what else I'm ordering!
 
BrownBear

If I had yore address I"d send you a Lyman GPR front sight fer nuthin!!

I use"ta live near Tok AK in the "interior"!!
 
Daddy and Grandpa used to get on me about taking a "coarse" or "fine" bead eveytime I'd want to fiddle with the sights.

I'd say "This rifle is hitting too high" they'd say, "Take a finer bead." Or,I'd say "This rifle is hitting too low" they'd say, "Take a coarser bead." The message was clear; Learn to shoot and hit with what you have.

Pretty simple logic, but you don't get to buy new nor tinker with the old stuff.

By their logic, you're not hitting low, you're taking too fine o' bead.
 
BrownBear, I have a couple front and rear sights from Green Mountain and a front and rear from pedersoli. If you need them you're welcome to them. I can drop them in the mail mon. or tues., let me know. Take care, Rick.
 
Originally posted by Haggis:
The message was clear; Learn to shoot and hit with what you have.

I agree. With my .50 cal. T/C, shooting at 100 yards, I rest the front sight ball in the buckhorn rear sight so that I can see the whole ball. Shooting at 50 yards, I can see only the top half of the front sight ball. Works for me. My best accuracy so far is with 70 gr. ffg, .018 pillow ticking patch, and .490" rb. I haven't tried fffg yet. Saving that for this spring when the weather warms up.
 
Thanks for the offers rollingb and DEADDAWG. I'll keep your generosity in reserve in case I have trouble finding what I need.

I agree about the beads Haggis and tommy b, but with lots of guns around it can turn into a string of beads wrapped too tight around your neck. I have Colt SAA's and other fixed-sight revolvers and pistols that get a little too interesting keeping tabs from one to the next. I do all the sight adjusting I can beforehand to simplify remembering, and only add a unique bead to my pouch if I have no other choice.
 
That's another reason I decided to standardize on TC Hawkens over the years...no matter how many different rifles or calibers, both percussion and
flintlocks, every rifle I pick up handles same and has the same sight picture
(plus maintenance is identical, parts are interchangeable, etc)
 
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