Veteran Arms Lancer Pistol

[hlhanna]

Just got in a Lancer single shot from Veteran Arms.
Haven't shot it yet, I was wondering if anyone had one and what charge they used.

 

[tenngun]

I bet 25-40 will be all you need

 

[hlhanna]

I am a huge Lancer fan, so I bought some of their .308 mags. Nah, not worth it. I have better luck with my wildcats using DPMS mags and in the standard calibers, the Lancers are about an inch longer than the DPMS mags and don't perform one bit better. I do like the Lancer 10R mags better than any other .308 10R mag I have tried but only the 19 round DPMS mags allow me to shoot from a bench without resorting to 10R mags. CP, Brownells, Magpul, and Lancer are all too long to shoot from a bench whereas the DPMS 19R just barely allow it in all my calibers. The Lancer 10R mags are ideal for bench shooting though.

I am having trouble finding the magazine well on my pistol...

 

[hlhanna]

I bet 25-40 will be all you need

It is .62 Calibre, I was thinking about trying a buckshot load in it.

 

[tenngun]

It is .62 Calibre, I was thinking about trying a buckshot load in it.

I had a sea service British pistol. .62 with a little longer barrel. Shot 40 with buck and some small. I never hunted with it but I bet the buck would do great at up to ten twelve yards

 

[Stantheman86]

I like the look of those, I keep almost buying one

 

[hlhanna]

I like the look of those, I keep almost buying one

I had a sea service British pistol. .62 with a little longer barrel. Shot 40 with buck and some small. I never hunted with it but I bet the buck would do great at up to ten twelve yards

I am going to try buckshot, and buck and ball, I bet that would be pretty effective at close range.

 

[hlhanna]

I like the look of those, I keep almost buying one

The balance is kind of weird, and it is heavy, but I like it.

 

[user 52391]

Interesting...Where are these made?

 

[Matt85]

Interesting...Where are these made?

Veteran Arms guns are mostly made in India. The company has a decent reputation and good customer service.

I did a quick search but my google-fu isn't good enough to find the original load. Do you plan on using military style cartridges or patched balls? The way I decided on my An IX load was using a chronograph to measure speeds. I didn't go for the most powerful load, just the load that seemed optimal. It takes a surprising amount of powder to get large caliber balls moving, especially if you use unpatched balls.

My guess would be between 40-60gr depending on ball/patch setup. Fg powder worked the best in my 69 caliber pistol but FFg would probably work fine in yours.

 

[appalichian hunter]

I am a huge Lancer fan, so I bought some of their .308 mags. Nah, not worth it. I have better luck with my wildcats using DPMS mags and in the standard calibers, the Lancers are about an inch longer than the DPMS mags and don't perform one bit better. I do like the Lancer 10R mags better than any other .308 10R mag I have tried but only the 19 round DPMS mags allow me to shoot from a bench without resorting to 10R mags. CP, Brownells, Magpul, and Lancer are all too long to shoot from a bench whereas the DPMS 19R just barely allow it in all my calibers. The Lancer 10R mags are ideal for bench shooting though.

Wrong forum bud.

 

[NorthFork]

I am a huge Lancer fan, so I bought some of their .308 mags. Nah, not worth it. I have better luck with my wildcats using DPMS mags and in the standard calibers, the Lancers are about an inch longer than the DPMS mags and don't perform one bit better. I do like the Lancer 10R mags better than any other .308 10R mag I have tried but only the 19 round DPMS mags allow me to shoot from a bench without resorting to 10R mags. CP, Brownells, Magpul, and Lancer are all too long to shoot from a bench whereas the DPMS 19R just barely allow it in all my calibers. The Lancer 10R mags are ideal for bench shooting though.

This ain't ar-15.com.

 

[Matt85]

Wrong forum bud.

He is a scammer, they make posts like that (probably copied from another forum) to raise their post count. The idea is the higher post count will help people trust them more in the classifieds.

 

[jdesro]

I like the look of those, I keep almost buying one

Looks like they have them on sale right now. Might be a good time to take the plunge!

 

[rickystl]

I've found that in these smooth, big bore pistols that about 30-35 grains of FFG works pretty well. They're not much good past about 15 yards. But that's all they were made for.

Rick

 

[hlhanna]

Veteran Arms guns are mostly made in India. The company has a decent reputation and good customer service.

I did a quick search but my google-fu isn't good enough to find the original load. Do you plan on using military style cartridges or patched balls? The way I decided on my An IX load was using a chronograph to measure speeds. I didn't go for the most powerful load, just the load that seemed optimal. It takes a surprising amount of powder to get large caliber balls moving, especially if you use unpatched balls.

My guess would be between 40-60gr depending on ball/patch setup. Fg powder worked the best in my 69 caliber pistol but FFg would probably work fine in yours.

I think I start with the 40, then work up, as you said.
I am going to try it with ball, buck and ball, and buckshot. May even try some bb shot.

 

[hlhanna]

I've found that in these smooth, big bore pistols that about 30-35 grains of FFG works pretty well. They're not much good past about 15 yards. But that's all they were made for.

Rick

This has a rear site, but I figure it is more point and shoot.

 

[Matt85]

I think I start with the 40, then work up, as you said.
I am going to try it with ball, buck and ball, and buckshot. May even try some bb shot.

Bare or patched?

I use paper cartridges, which have advantages and disadvantages. Advantage of a cartridge is speed and ease of loading. Cartridges are especially good if you shoot with people who are used to modern guns and get bored easily. Another plus side to the cartridge is that new shooters can load the gun without risk of dry balling or excessive powder. Downside to cartridges is that accuracy suffers quite a bit. You aren't going to win any competitions shooting a paper cartridge with a severely undersized ball. But in my opinion, cartridges are just more fun!

Also, if you decide to go with a bare ball. Use a ball that's around 0.04" smaller than your bore. I use a 0.65" ball in my 0.685" guns and can shoot for hours without any fouling issues. (Although I found the guns shoot better if the bore is cleaned every 5 or so shots)

 

[hlhanna]

Bare or patched?

I use paper cartridges, which have advantages and disadvantages. Advantage of a cartridge is speed and ease of loading. Cartridges are especially good if you shoot with people who are used to modern guns and get bored easily. Another plus side to the cartridge is that new shooters can load the gun without risk of dry balling or excessive powder. Downside to cartridges is that accuracy suffers quite a bit. You aren't going to win any competitions shooting a paper cartridge with a severely undersized ball. But in my opinion, cartridges are just more fun!

Also, if you decide to go with a bare ball. Use a ball that's around 0.04" smaller than your bore. I use a 0.65" ball in my 0.685" guns and can shoot for hours without any fouling issues. (Although I found the guns shoot better if the bore is cleaned every 5 or so shots)

I am more comfortable with paper cartridges, and I don't expect a tackdriver. Minute of man is plenty accurate for a horse pistol!
It is supposed to be .62, so I figured about a .60 ball. Do you reckon that will be ok?

 

[Matt85]

I am more comfortable with paper cartridges, and I don't expect a tackdriver. Minute of man is plenty accurate for a horse pistol!
It is supposed to be .62, so I figured about a .60 ball. Do you reckon that will be ok?

If it's actually a .62" then I would use a .58" or smaller ball. Anything bigger will cause problems once some fouling starts to build. Measure your bore with some calipers before you pick a ball size.

Lee makes a double cavity .575" mold that would be a good inexpensive choice. Another option is ballmoulds.com, he makes decent custom ball molds from brass.

My two 69 caliber guns are .685" at the muzzle and I've been using a .65" ball with decent results. Accuracy is "minute of man" at 50 yards with my 1777 musket and the An IX pistol is "minute of man" at 15 yards. I have noticed accuracy does start to drop off after 5-6 shots if you don't swab the bore.

Here is a recent 3 shot "group" I fired at 10 yards with the An IX. (first shot is low left and the other two are right next to each other). I had some trouble getting the first shot off (oil on the frizzen) so I may have pulled the first shot.