Vincent Ohio Rifle kit build

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Getting back into muzzle loaders. I ordered my first rifle when I was 12 from DGW. A Lyman trade rifle. I had been directed to the Tennessee poor boy they sold at that time but as I was using my own money couldn't afford it. Funny thing is I really wanted a lever action rifle but my dad wouldn't get one for me because I was too young. He didn't know much about muzzle loaders and must of thought it more of a step up from a air rifle instead of a powerful weapon in it's own right.

I remember him watching me shoot a chunk of hedge wood and exclaiming "that's a real gun!" To late at that point. He would have had to pry it from my cold dead fingers. Good times were had. I had to get my powder from an old retired gunsmith that still had a gunshop in a back room of his house. He would sell me Goex 2f with a wink, "you ain't going to blow up the courthouse, now are you?" I ordered a mold and bought plumbers lead from the scrap yard to melt into round balls. I used scrap material from my moms sewing room for patches. Never new what the thickness was or cared until much older.

Anyways I digress. My oldest son turned twelve and I was telling him the above story. I decided to buy him a parts set from TOTW and get him started in this great way of life. The Vincent Ohio rifle kit looked like a great way to go. 800+ later we had a kit on the way with a few other things I couldn't pass up. Now I feel like a kid again with the old excitement welling up as I look at the components.

Luckily for me I have a smith friend who has built several muzzleloaders in the past who is willing to let me use his shop in the evenings and supervise us as we put assemble this rifle. In fact I have a half built Leman type trade rifle that I started 5 years ago that I may get to finish while we're there. Wish us luck.
 
You and the boy will have some fun together with that project. Good luck and keep us posted---OH ! & we love pic's...Tom
 
Colorado will be a great place to get out in the mountain air, and make smoke.......

:bow:
Marc n tomtom
 
That is a decent kit and it will produce a very nice, correct and very "usable" rifle.

Ohio's are my first love - ooop's, I mean first right after my wife :rotf: (sorry dear)

What caliber did you select?
 
Okurok said:
Luckily for me I have a smith friend who has built several muzzleloaders in the past who is willing to let me use his shop in the evenings and supervise us as we put assemble this rifle. In fact I have a half built Leman type trade rifle that I started 5 years ago that I may get to finish while we're there. Wish us luck.


I think you are in for a surprise, as this so called "kit" you bought is not... a assembly...... The only thing it has in common with the Lyman kit, is the fact they are wood/metal & are both rifles...

Good Luck

Keith Lisle
 
No surprise. The Lyman rifle wasn't a kit. The Leman trade rifle my smith helped me start was only a .58 cal barrel from GRRW that I found at a sale. I only got the barrel shortened, threaded for breach plug, breach plug installed and draw filed before life intervened about 4 years ago. Had a block of wood picked out for the stock. Just wish I had more time for this stuff.
 
The Ohio Vincent from ToTW and Pecatonica was my first build too. It worked out ok, and, without a patch box I believe it was about a 130 hour project.

As mine came the barrel was inletted shallow, and short. The pewter nose cap was a special challenge too. PM me when you get to that stage and I can give you some tips so that you only have to do it once. The absolute necessity is to make sure you have an entirely leak-proof dam to our the pewter in to. You will NOT want to be trying to stop up any ongoing leaks with your bare fingers with molten tin!

There is a LOT of extra wood on that stock that needs to come off too, especially at the lock panels and in the wrist. Mine had enough that I could do a 1/4" cast off, and a 3 degree toe in, which is a little less than I like (5 degrees). The Davis trigger plate will need bending and trimming, and is most easy to bend while hot, because it's pretty thick. Just be sure to pull the trigger parts out of there (especially the springs) when you heat it.

Are you doing yours with a patch box?

All in, my Vincent is my best shooting offhand rifle. It could be that the barrel (34" 7/8 ATF GM barrel) is really stiff with that rail under neath it, or the sights are really good, (they are). or that very sharply pronounced crescent butt plate really locks it in to my arm pit. But on standard 4 1/2" bulls, I can keep 8 out of 10 of the shots in the black at 50 yards from off hand. (48 gr, 777 .440 ball, .015 spit patch) And, that's as good as I can do with my 14 pound full on scoped .22 free rifle (custom stocked Win 52-D) when I'm all jacketed up. All in, mine weighs 7.3 pounds, which isn't a bad field weight for a 45. :shocked2:
 
Didn't get the patch box with it. Kid's not sure he wants one. Will see when we get to that. I'm thinking I might not do much fancy on it until later. Will definitely be in the market for advice when the time comes for pouring the pewter nose cap. I have some experience pouring babbitt bearings. Both in controlled environment and also in the field. Know a little about the panic of a pour gone wrong. :shocked2:

Looking forward to the challenge. Counting the days when my gunsmith gets home so we can get going on this. Planning on pictures showing progress or screw ups. Might as well start with nothing messed up.
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By not putting in a patch box, you will save yourself about 20 hours of aggravation.

In the decorating department, if there is any present at all, most Vincents were only incise carved, and not terribly profusely. Engraving can take on a more developed and fine flair than that which was more common in the Golden Age era.

But, first things first. Get the basic architecture right, and then you can worry about the stuff that comes afterwards.
 
So glad to hear your son in helping we need more kids getting into muzzleloading. Back to basics, if fact my boy love's it and is also into trapping too.

Beaver T.
 
Thanks Zonie. Need all the help I can get.

About getting the young ones involved in blackpowder. I think I screwed up. If this one turns out I have 3 more little beggars wanting one. When they saw what big brother's getting they all wanted on the band wagon. Might be a while before dad get's his done.
 
Nice!

I am finishing my TOTW Vincent rifle right now. It's my first build other than T/C Hawken, and I have made a plethora of mistakes.

Col Batguano is right about the nosecap. I used his advice and it turned out well.

Also, as stated before, there is a lot lot of extra wood on there, from buttplate to nosecap. Avoid my mistake and file it down before you pour the nose cap. Take measurements from the plans, and you will see how much extra wood there is.

My stock turned out gorgeous with Aqua Fortis and LMF Lancaster Maple stain. I have been too busy to post photos lately, but will soon.

Here is a link to my post about the build. I am no expert, so I hope you will learn from my mistakes:
http://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/fusionbb/showtopic.php?tid/299219/tp/1/



Cheers,
Chowmi
 
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