W&C Scott & Son Double-Barrel???

[satx78247]

Friends,

I have found a "plain-vanilla" (about 11 gauge) W&C Scott and Son, SxS double barrel, muzzle-loading shotgun in rural LA.

Can anyone tell me anything about the British company that made the shotgun, including if there is any way to "date" the weapon?
(A "google search" told me little specific data about the company and equally little about their products, other than a couple of other shotguns "for sale" and a few photos of similar shotguns.)

yours, satx

 

[hawkeye2]

You may not find much more than that. Doubles were a staple item through the 1800's and early 1900's with many low cost ones produced in England and Belgium for hardware stores and so on. Most are lost to history being about as memorable as a Nash Rambler. :grin:

 

[Lorne Johnson]

WC Scott has a long history of making very solid guns (Birmingham trade). I have a 10 gauge Scott muzzle loader. It's a real waterfowler.

 

[satx78247]

hawkeye2; GreenMt,

THANKS gents. I was HOPING for a LOT more than that.
(OH, WELL.)

yours, satx

 

[F.G. Ford]

Squire Robin may peek in and ad some information.
He lives on the other side of the pond and is well informed.
Seek his help, I'm sure he can.
Fred

 

[Wes/Tex]

This may be a bit tedious, for which I apologize, but there were two William Scott gun makers working in the mid to late 1800's in England.

William Scott made shotguns from 1841. The company became "W. C. Scott & Son" in 1859 and "William Scott & Son" in 1869 and continued until 1875. From 1842 & 1843, William worked out of Henry Street in London, moving to Leman Street from 1843 to 1849 when it moved to Whittal Street in Birmingham in 1855. In 1859, the company "W. Scott & Son" moved to Princip Street, remaning there til it closed in 1875. The "Sons" being used on post-1869 guns made there. "W. Scott & Son" should predate 1869 and all guns will have Birmingham proof marks.

"W. & C. Scott" (William & Charles), was a Birmingham gun making firm that never was in London. "W. & C. Scott" worked from 1842 till 1897 when it was purchased in entirety by P. Webley & Sons, the new firm became "Webley & Scott" the famed revolver manufacturer from 1897. This would make your gun's production somewhere from 1869 to 1875. About the best I can do right now. Hope this helps amigo!

 

[satx78247]

Wes/Tex,

GRACIAS, mi companero.

NOT at all "tedious", as it was PRECISELY what I wanted to know! = BRAVO.
(I award you both ears & the tail.)

The DB shotgun that I've found is NOT as old as I'd hoped BUT it should do FINE for an "Old West", Late Victorian and/or perhaps a Boxer Rebellion "civilian impression" AND for hunting, as well.= Some of the "old folks", when I was a lad in the 1950s,still routinely hunted with muzzle-loading shotguns, as they believed that breech-loaders were too expensive to buy shells for!!!
(The bores are fine & it's just "beat-up enough" to NOT worry overly about taking it afield.)

yours, satx

 

[Joel/Calgary]

We might get more information if the moderators move this to the Firearms Identification forum, since this concerns an original, not a reproduction.

Regards,
Joel

 

[robinghewitt]

Squire Robin may peek in and ad some information.
He lives on the other side of the pond and is well informed.

I'm not actually well informed, I had a mad rush of blood to the brain one day and bought a copy of Heer der Neue Stockel :idunno:

William Middleditch Scott had 2 sons, James Charles Scott lacks dates but the eldest got his fathers name and was active 1834-86 and between them they founded W & C Scott around 1840. I only see one address and that is 79 Weaman St, B'ham.

 

[satx78247]

Joel/Calgary,

THANKS for your input, eh.
(As a supply sergeant of TENTH LOUISIANA INF, PACSA, I'm an "honorary Canuck".)

yours, satx

 

[satx78247]

Squire Robin,

THANKS for the address/info. = Every little bit helps.

yours, satx