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[Bad Karma]

Mike, could you elaborate on this? Can't picture how a wedgeless arbor would work. Thanks, Dan

Don’t know what Mike is thinking of but an interrupted thread could do it. You’d need only a small latch at the base of the barrel/frame junction to secure the assembly. Something like the Merwin Hulbert cartridge revolvers.
It could be done using a pair of lugs on the arbor as well.

 

[TrapperDude]

Don’t know what Mike is thinking of but an interrupted thread could do it. You’d need only a small latch at the base of the barrel/frame junction to secure the assembly. Something like the Merwin Hulbert cartridge revolvers.
It could be done using a pair of lugs on the arbor as well.

I'm thinking it's a set of lug recesses where the arbor would normally screw in, and the arbor has lugs that turn into and engage those recesses.

 

[45D]

Mike, could you elaborate on this? Can't picture how a wedgeless arbor would work. Thanks, Dan

Yes, it would be a lug type setup just like a bolt in a bolt action rifle.

 

[45D]

I'm thinking it's a set of lug recesses where the arbor would normally screw in, and the arbor has lugs that turn into and engage those recesses.

Almost, not where it screws in but in the arbor hole.

Mike

 

[Bad Karma]

I'm thinking it's a set of lug recesses where the arbor would normally screw in, and the arbor has lugs that turn into and engage those recesses.

That could work if you can get around the hand and hammer slots.

 

[UndeadPoet]

Now you all are making me feel like I should have one (or one of each) of the many varieties you have mentioned…

 

[Desperate Lee]

I have a pistol I intended to chop… now, it’s hard to take the first stroke of the saw.

Go ahead brother. I have chopped 2 so far. An 1851in .36 and an 1860 in .44. Do it quick and the pain goes away faster. What i made were brass 3" snubbies. Got a steel .36 to make a 3" 38 S&W conversion gun. Just have not gotten to it yet. One day.
SF

 

[Desperate Lee]

That's still doable. Taking part in the torture test of a new gun concept would be worth a few hours of driving.

Woa Woa Woa I may need to get in on this my brothers. Aint no one likes shooting big guns better than Marines.
SF

 

[GYJ]

Woa Woa Woa I may need to get in on this my brothers. Aint no one likes shooting big guns better than Marines.
SF

Think about how many of us would be willing to do these torture tests. All they gotta do is buy the ammo!

 

[TrapperDude]

Think about how many of us would be willing to do these torture tests. All they gotta do is buy the ammo!

Heck, so many of us are getting so interested, we could probably each bring one round and have enough to do the test.

 

[Bad Karma]

Go ahead brother. I have chopped 2 so far. An 1851in .36 and an 1860 in .44. Do it quick and the pain goes away faster. What i made were brass 3" snubbies. Got a steel .36 to make a 3" 38 S&W conversion gun. Just have not gotten to it yet. One day.
SF

I couldn’t do it so it sent it away to a mercinary… er, I mean gunsmith, who has no such qualms! Hah!

 

[Desperate Lee]

I couldn’t do it so it sent it away to a mercinary… er, I mean gunsmith, who has no such qualms! Hah!

Spend all that time in the rice fields and cant cut up one little pistol? I know, took me a few months to getup the nerve also.
SF

 

[Bad Karma]

Spend all that time in the rice fields and cant cut up one little pistol? I know, took me a few months to getup the nerve also.
SF

We used mercs there too… ROK were tough sons. (They’d cut up that pistol, no sweat )

 

[Russ T Frizzen]

We used mercs there too… ROK were tough sons. (They’d cut up that pistol, no sweat )

The ROKs wouldn't need a hacksaw. They'd just chew the barrel off. Love those guys!

 

[springfield art]

Cap and ball for the period: Remington 1858
Cap and ball for any time: Ruger Old Army

Suppository guns: Colt SAA

Jeff

Took me a minute to figure out what a "suppository gun" is! Clever!

 

[springfield art]

We used mercs there too… ROK were tough sons. (They’d cut up that pistol, no sweat )

Most people don't know anything about the ROKs. They kicked a--. BTW, a friend who patrolled the DMZ in Korea before being sent into combat in VN, tells about all the left-over stuff from the Korean War that's in the un-touchable, un-inhabited DMZ; you can just look and see left over detrius from the combat when the Armistice was called. They say the DMZ is a veritable wildlife paradise for many kinds of animals, as there's NO human activity in there. ROKs are tough!

 

[BatBoy]

I love these type of posts and I love Cap and Ball revolvers.

Going with the OP premise of only one BP handgun.

Antebellum, 1851
Post Civil war, 1860
Cartridge BP gun, S&W #3 in .44 Henry

The 1851 is cheaper to feed. An important characteristic of out west before the civil war. It’s a big enough caliber and powder capacity to get job done. Also a better all around option when compared to the Dragoon or 1849 Baby dragoon.

After the civil war, 1860s were dirt cheap. I read somewhere that after the civil war the USA sold a ton of 1860s as surplus and a Colt 1860 Army could be had for under $2. That’s $36 in 2022. Even then a new 1860 would be my choice. It handles fouling like a champ and is the defacto “Glock” of its era.

S&W #3 because it was introduced 3 years before the Colt SAA, is easier to reload and was available in 44 Henry. It would be a great companion to a Winchester 1866; the real Winchester that won the West.

 

[TrapperDude]

Most people don't know anything about the ROKs. They kicked a--. BTW, a friend who patrolled the DMZ in Korea before being sent into combat in VN, tells about all the left-over stuff from the Korean War that's in the un-touchable, un-inhabited DMZ; you can just look and see left over detrius from the combat when the Armistice was called. They say the DMZ is a veritable wildlife paradise for many kinds of animals, as there's NO human activity in there. ROKs are tough!

I've only heard good things about their performance in Vietnam. There was one story recounted in a memoir I read where a firebase was having issues with VC harassing them every evening with some mortar rounds. A ROK squad went out after one such episode and came back a few hours later with a base plate, tube and a few VC heads.

When I was a young PFC stationed in Korea, the MWR wood shop had a local working there who I would talk to while he helped me make a wooden footlocker so I could have an extra place to store stuff in my barracks room. He had been in Vietnam as an infantryman. He said they used to take apart claymores and use the C4 inside of them to heat water for cooking and cleaning. As long as you don't hit it while it's burning, it won't explode. That's some serious ingenuity, right there.

 

[BatBoy]

I've only heard good things about their performance in Vietnam. There was one story recounted in a memoir I read where a firebase was having issues with VC harassing them every evening with some mortar rounds. A ROK squad went out after one such episode and came back a few hours later with a base plate, tube and a few VC heads.

When I was a young PFC stationed in Korea, the MWR wood shop had a local working there who I would talk to while he helped me make a wooden footlocker so I could have an extra place to store stuff in my barracks room. He had been in Vietnam as an infantryman. He said they used to take apart claymores and use the C4 inside of them to heat water for cooking and cleaning. As long as you don't hit it while it's burning, it won't explode. That's some serious ingenuity, right there.

C4 is not set off that way. You can burn it and stomp on it and it won’t go off. C4 can be even shot by a rifle round and it won’t go off. C4 is set off by a shock wave initiated by a high intensity shock way created by an explosive booster. I would not burn it an inhale the fumes though.

 

[TrapperDude]

C4 is not set off that way. You can burn it and stomp on it and it won’t go off. C4 can be even shot by a rifle round and it won’t go off. C4 is set off by a shock wave initiated by a high intensity shock way created by an explosive booster. I would not burn it an inhale the fumes though.

So, I've heard that it a hit from a hammer while it's burning provides sufficient shock.

As far as the fumes go, we got to rig some charges when I was a cadet, and the stuff has a very chemically smell to it. Anything that smells like that in its stable form would have to release some nasty fumes when it's burned.