It is true that the 1858 has a small grip, but if you just let your pinky go underneath it like you would with a pocket gun, it actually shoots very nicely. Try it out some time, and you will see that holding it that way results in pointing it being similar to pointing your finger. After spending some time shooting it that way, you'll find that it is actually pretty comfortable.
The reason you grip it that way is because you run out of grip. You may like how it feels and that is fine for you. I do not. Don't need salesman talk to try and convince me what I do and do not like. You seem to put across that you invented your grip style and everyone else is too dumb to know how to adapt to that style without instruction. You use that grip style out of necessity because of the small grip on the Remington. And while it is perfectly OK for you it is not for me, nothing wrong with choice. Was just referring to a fact.
Your abilities are outstanding. The only ability you seem to lack, is the ability to have a preference or to accept that other people may have even if you don't.
Well, I have a deal for you! With my booklet, available for only $19.95, you too can learn to love the 1858 grip so much that you saw off your 1860 grip to match!
Many people actually don't know, and they appreciate learning about it.
I never said otherwise. I also heard that it was intentionally designed that way so that the pinky can flip it back forward faster after it rolls back in the hand under recoil.
AND I WAS ALSO JUST REFERRING TO A FACT.
The only ability you lack is the ability not to be offended by differing opinions. If you don't want to learn multiple platforms, that is most certainly your prerogative, but you don't need to get personal with people because they explain the virtues of them or the virtues of learning many as @Whughett tried to do.
I am not offended at all. Your preference for other than colt handguns does not effect me. And I am not offering lessons on how to grip the colt 1860. Of the black powder handguns which one would I choose to save my life. The 1860 colt, and that is nothing more than just my choice. I do not identify with a poor craftsman, just have my personal preference. Have handled the Remington many times, and just do not like it and all your talking or lessons do not make a difference. You are the one trying to convince me to agree with your choice. Not trying to push colt on you.
I missed these on a quick read, I knew you were selling something. I do not need to spend 19.95 to learn how your method. You just can not understand your method is for you, and mine for me. Kind of hard for you to accept.
Uh... You're joking, right? Trying to be facetious? You don't seriously think I was trying to actually sell something for money, do you???
Just took you at your word, now that that has been proven.
Uh-huh...
Somebody should’ve told that to Bill Hickok…maybe he’d have made through that card game.
Would be hard to disagree, even Colt dropped the open top idea.
Not the strongest in describing the open-top concept doesn't mean non-lethal... I don't think @Nobody85 was implying otherwise.
Well there’s a resident expert on Colts revolvers in these here pages that would disagree with the Remy stronger than a Colt idea. I’d be inclined to agree with that, the massive Colt arbor in line with recoil and all that. Seems to me that upper strap only allows fo a better sighting arrangement and all that skinny base pin does is foul after a few cylinders. But then again I just like the Colts.
As far as the Colt versus Remington argument goes, only an analysis of the structural designs can answer the question, and not having done so, myself, nor having seen an a force vector analysis, I won't weigh in on which might be stronger. I do know that people seem to shoot either one for a lifetime, it seems.
Ackshually… the open top design is restrained at the arbor which is at the center of the cylinder. The barrel lug, at the bottom of the frame, has no bearing on restraining the assembly.
The reason Colt went with the enclosed frame had more to do with the desires of their biggest client, the US government than strength of the assembly. The governmentis bigges complaint with the open top was not strength but the known issues around wedge wear.
