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What group sizes do you get at 200yd with heavy 45cal bullets

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Hello, I'm wondering what are you all's group sizes at 200 yards with 45cal bullets 4oog up to 500+, I'm getting 4" groups/2 MOA (5shot groups) and think that surely a different gun would do better. Please tell me what rifle you use and weight of your bullet.
Thanks
 
Hello, I'm wondering what are you all's group sizes at 200 yards with 45cal bullets 4oog up to 500+, I'm getting 4" groups/2 MOA (5shot groups) and think that surely a different gun would do better. Please tell me what rifle you use and weight of your bullet.
Thanks
If conditions are right (light is good, no wind, etc) and I can see the target, less than one MOA five shot groups are a regular occurrence at 200 yards. This is with a 45 cal GM LRH (1-30 twist) barrel in a TC Renegade stock with an RE Davis trigger, Lee Shavers inserts in a Lyman front sight and a Lyman 57 rear sight. Bullet is just over 400 grains, paperpatched with 100% cotton 9# onion skin and sized for easy loading (little more than weight of my range rod), pushed with 80 grains of 3F Swiss, with an 1/8” thick by .50” diameter hard dry felt wad over the powder. At the range I use a damp/dry patch to swab between shots, but can easily load more than a half a dozen rounds without difficulty with no swabbing. The MOA accuracy holds out to 300 yards, but find that the Lyman 57 is starting to get a bit ‘wobbly’ when jacked up for the longer distances and if I were to get serious about long range shooting, would definitely invest in a better purpose built sight and possibly a faster twist barrel. I have been told that the 1-30 twist is marginal for the 400+ grain bullets, but as a hunting gun out to 150 yards or so max, the setup works for what I want.
 
Hello, I'm wondering what are you all's group sizes at 200 yards with 45cal bullets 4oog up to 500+, I'm getting 4" groups/2 MOA (5shot groups) and think that surely a different gun would do better. Please tell me what rifle you use and weight of your bullet.
Thanks
What kind of rifle are you using?
 
Hello, I'm wondering what are you all's group sizes at 200 yards with 45cal bullets 4oog up to 500+, I'm getting 4" groups/2 MOA (5shot groups) and think that surely a different gun would do better. Please tell me what rifle you use and weight of your bullet.
Thanks
What rifle are you using? What sights are you using? Are you shooting prone with sling or from a bench and rested (or other)? Have you tried 10 shot groups?

My mid-range shooting (200 - 600 yards) is prone with a sling support and aperture sights. We use the standard NRA(UK) full-bore centre-fire rifle targets that have a bull's-eye measuring 3.5" diameter. Best I've done is likely around 2.5 MoA with a 10 shot group and sling support.

David
 
What type of rifle am I using? I don't know. It's a custom job with 30"+ barrel and 1 in 27" twist, set trigger, rear peep sight, post front, and a presentation piece of fiddleback maple all the way up and down with carving and inserts. It's name?
Aint For Sale
 
ResearchPress, I shoot off the bench for max accuracy these days. I can't go prone anymore (like a lot of things you can't do when you get old, darn now I need a beer). but I was only 3% away from master in high power rifle, 600 yards is a long way with open sights on a M1 Garand.
 
Hello, I'm wondering what are you all's group sizes at 200 yards with 45cal bullets 4oog up to 500+, I'm getting 4" groups/2 MOA (5shot groups) and think that surely a different gun would do better. Please tell me what rifle you use and weight of your bullet.
Thanks
From the description of your rifle, I doubt that a new rifle would reduce group size. More practice with emphasis on load development would shrink groups, but not by much.
 
This is a Hoyt switch barreled .40/.45.The 45 likes 80 grains of 1-1/2 Swiss under a vegetable fiber card wad and an Accurate molds 340I bullet. The 40 uses 60 grains of 2f Swiss, an unlubed 45 caliber wad and the 265I bullet from an Accurate Mold. I’ve shot 5 shot MOA groups with both at 200 yards. I use a Redfield front sight with Shaver inserts and on this hunting rig a Williams 57 rear sight. This kind of accuracy doesn’t happen every day, just often enough to keep me coming back for more.
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Very nice rifle Bad Carma.
I'm shooting a .440 sized 45-70 bullet, 405g with 80g of goex. The bullet has a hollow in the bottom so its a minie and I fill it with crisco. Even though my barrel mikes . 443 the bullets get 2 Moa out to 300yds, I haven't tried wads under the bullet because it is a minie style and I thought they would mess up bullet swell/obbteration and accuracy. What do you think?
 
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