What gun is this

[Pigman]

I have heard the gun in this link decribed as a Brown Bess. But I dont think so.

Can any one identify it?
http://www.shorpy.com/node/4945?size=_original

Thanks,
Foster

 

[Many Klatch]

Could be a "sporterized" Bess. I'm surprised he left the barrel so long after chopping the stock so short.

Many Klatch

 

[rabjr]

Looks like one of the early U.S arms but not sure which. Looks a lot like the 1817 Common rifle but it don't show the patchbox. Parts could have been put into a different stock though. :hmm:

 

1816 musket.
http://www.angelfire.com/vt/milsurp/spring16.html

Sean

 

[cowpoke1955]

Could be French or early American, but not a Bess. Note the double throated cock.

 

[trent/OH]

The gun plays second fiddle to the man, a 70 year old soldier!

 

[renovato]

If you look at the fore end, it looks like the wood is broken or chipped out. The stock might have broken and was shortened. That'd explain such a short stock with such a long barrel. Interesting story, but I wish they had wrote more details.

 

[Va.Manuf.06]

This is a well known photo of Burns, and Sean is correct, it is a US M1816 flint musket that has been converted to a fowler by shortening the stock.

 

[Mike Brooks]

This is a well known photo of Burns, and Sean is correct, it is a US M1816 flint musket that has been converted to a fowler by shortening the stock.

Yup. :thumbsup:

 

[musketman]

I have heard the gun in this link decribed as a Brown Bess. But I dont think so.

You are correct, Brown Besses do not have the double throated hammer (cock).

 

[mastrsgt]

Musketman,

Actually, according to Anthony D. Darling in "Red Coat and Brown Bess" the India pattern had a reinforced hammer (cock) added in 1809. This is a good book for anyone interested in the Land Pattern muskets

Don R