David Snellen
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Gentlemen,
What do y'all think a TC Patriot is worth?
What do y'all think a TC Patriot is worth?
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What is a T/C patriot pistol worth?
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I have seen the Patriot pistols go from $300-600.00, depending on the condition. I think the .45 cal is the most popular.
I was fortunate to pick up two for $250.00. One was unfired. Both are .45 cal
If I remember correctly, they were only about $125.00 when they were first introduced on the market.
They are excellent pistols. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
I was fortunate to pick up two for $250.00. One was unfired. Both are .45 cal
If I remember correctly, they were only about $125.00 when they were first introduced on the market.
They are excellent pistols. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
According to the Blue Book of Modern Black Powder Arms (Fifth Edition, 2007), $240 in 100% condition.
The Blue Book is only a guide. Actual prices can and do vary considerably in either direction.
The Patriot was discontinued in 1987; at that time the MSRP was $235.
The Blue Book is only a guide. Actual prices can and do vary considerably in either direction.
The Patriot was discontinued in 1987; at that time the MSRP was $235.
slowpokebr549
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Geez, there is one that has been at a local pawn shop for probably two years. He has it marked 500$, no joke.
I sold a unfired new one here a while back and the buyer drove a LOT of miles the ext day to get it..I cut people off that said they would give me 600, so don't kid your self these are worth every penny someone will pay for them and rthis one sat in a gun shop for 200 something I think the org price for 20 yrs or so. But when you have to keep telln people no when they say "Ill give ya 50 more" it's going to be worth a bunch some yrs down the road ( I knew when TOW said send it anyway but would only pay 325 for a unfired one somwething wasn't right - they sell them and make not a cent ya know :rotf: Fred :hatsoff:
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I wouldn't offer this particular gentleman a glass of water if he was on fire. He won't deal on anything and is a purveyor of stolen merchandise. I was there trying to buy back a rifle of my grandfathers which was stolen and pawned by a cousin.
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Gentlemen,
Thanks for the help. So, I reckon 300-500 is a ball park?
As to a pawned firearm, if it was reported stolen, get the police report (so long as staute of limitations is in effect) call the law and get your gun. Criminals shouldn't get away with things.
David
Thanks for the help. So, I reckon 300-500 is a ball park?
As to a pawned firearm, if it was reported stolen, get the police report (so long as staute of limitations is in effect) call the law and get your gun. Criminals shouldn't get away with things.
David
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If the pistol has been reported stolen, you have an entirely different set of circumstances. The statute of limitations will apply only to making an arrest and or criminal complaint. If the pistol is stolen, it is stolen forever until it is removed from the stolen firearms computer records. The only people who can do that would be the police. The firearm would be confiscated and booked into evidence at the local police department. A teletype/ computer message would be sent to the original agency where the pistol was reported stolen. That agency would attempt to contact the original victim/ owner if possible to return the property. If an insurance company has gotten involved, they would be contacted. If the insurance paid a claim for the lost pistol, they have then become the new owner of the pistol.
Depending on the local laws where you live, there is a good chance it will be turned into a manhole cover or a fender for a Toyota.
In short, if it is stolen and you are found to be in possession, it can be confiscated and you will be out the purchase price. It can cause you a lot of heartache. If for some reason you think it might be stolen, get the serial number from it and caliber, go to your police department and ask to speak to someone. They can run the information for the pistol in the computer and get an answer in a few minutes. If it is hot, tell them where it is and save yourself and maybe somebody else a lot of grief. If the pawn shop dealer is dealing in stolen property, he needs to go away...
The pistol may not be registered as a firearm would normally be, but if it has a serial number and that number has been given as an identifier on a particular piece of property, and that has been entered into the computer system, it will pop up also as being stolen.
If it is a local case, after the thing has been recovered, you might be able to contact the owner and get it from him legally.
Just a few things to think about. :hmm:
Depending on the local laws where you live, there is a good chance it will be turned into a manhole cover or a fender for a Toyota.
In short, if it is stolen and you are found to be in possession, it can be confiscated and you will be out the purchase price. It can cause you a lot of heartache. If for some reason you think it might be stolen, get the serial number from it and caliber, go to your police department and ask to speak to someone. They can run the information for the pistol in the computer and get an answer in a few minutes. If it is hot, tell them where it is and save yourself and maybe somebody else a lot of grief. If the pawn shop dealer is dealing in stolen property, he needs to go away...
The pistol may not be registered as a firearm would normally be, but if it has a serial number and that number has been given as an identifier on a particular piece of property, and that has been entered into the computer system, it will pop up also as being stolen.
If it is a local case, after the thing has been recovered, you might be able to contact the owner and get it from him legally.
Just a few things to think about. :hmm:
David,DoubleDeuce 1 said:
Then there is the possibility that
this manhole cover or Toyota fender might end
up in the bedstand of an officer of the law.
I read or saw somewhere a couple of years ago that less than 1/2 of confiscated guns by
police are ever melted down,and only 1/2 that number truly are destroyed.
snake-eyes :hmm:
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You left out a key line in your mis-quote. I suggest you re-read it.
Again, the disposition of the stolen property would depend on the local laws.
Where the pistol ultimately ends up is yet to be determined. If by chance this pawn shop dealer is dealing in stolen merchandise, it is better that he be removed from society. It would be doing us all a service. Another consideration would be, if there was a concern for this being stolen, maybe the local law enforcement agency or even the feds might be watching him. If you walk in and make the purchase right at the time the police decide to pay a visit, at the least, you will be detained. Your information will be taken down and possibly your name run through the computer. A trail will have been started for you.
As for your statement about the pistol ending up in the cop's nightstand, now that would depend on what you allowed your local agency to become. That is a whole other matter.
If the pistol ends up being destroyed, that is a small price to pay if it means removing someone from society who one day might end up fencing/ selling some of your things.
If you are interested in the pistol, consider doing the right thing regardless of the outcome.
Your comment about the disposition of confiscated firearms by law enforcement officers would appear to be baseless unless you can back it up. If it was a poor attempt at humor, don't quit your day job.
Again, the disposition of the stolen property would depend on the local laws.
Where the pistol ultimately ends up is yet to be determined. If by chance this pawn shop dealer is dealing in stolen merchandise, it is better that he be removed from society. It would be doing us all a service. Another consideration would be, if there was a concern for this being stolen, maybe the local law enforcement agency or even the feds might be watching him. If you walk in and make the purchase right at the time the police decide to pay a visit, at the least, you will be detained. Your information will be taken down and possibly your name run through the computer. A trail will have been started for you.
As for your statement about the pistol ending up in the cop's nightstand, now that would depend on what you allowed your local agency to become. That is a whole other matter.
If the pistol ends up being destroyed, that is a small price to pay if it means removing someone from society who one day might end up fencing/ selling some of your things.
If you are interested in the pistol, consider doing the right thing regardless of the outcome.
Your comment about the disposition of confiscated firearms by law enforcement officers would appear to be baseless unless you can back it up. If it was a poor attempt at humor, don't quit your day job.
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The firearm I was talking abouth was taken from my Grandfathers estate by a cousin. He was not mentioned in the will as my Grandpa knew what a sleeze he is. He pawned Grangpa's Anshutz .22 hornet for far less than it was worth. No one wanted press charges and I couldnt come up with the inflated price the SOB hung on said firearm. I had seen the Patriot that he had in the gun case many times. Sorry if I took the thread off down a rabbit trail.
Well fellow patriot owners,mine cost me all of A$50, the grip had been modified to take a free pistol wraparound grip but I restored it to normal,it shoots like a dream with 12 grains of Swiss 4f,the set trigger takes a bit of getting used to,very very light but manageable.
The barrel is at the gunsmiths having 40 mil taken off as I find it barrel heavy particulary shooting a full match at 50 Meters and having to load it 45 times.I'm like a one armed paperhanger,its in .45 cal and its a pleasure to shoot
regards to all M/Ls
hotelbravo
The barrel is at the gunsmiths having 40 mil taken off as I find it barrel heavy particulary shooting a full match at 50 Meters and having to load it 45 times.I'm like a one armed paperhanger,its in .45 cal and its a pleasure to shoot
regards to all M/Ls
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what kind of velocity are you getting with 12 grains of powder? couldnt ya just spit the bass out of yer mouth that fast? :rotf:
I use a measure w/ a swivel funnel. At one match, a shot sounded more like a pup passin' gas. Back at the bench, I noticed most of the powder was still in the measure: musta had less than 8 grains in the barrel, as I normally shoot 15 in my .41. The ball hit in the black at 25. No, I didn't adjust the charge but I do check the measure.
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I shoot 15 grains of 3F in my Patriot. However, I have to use some corn meal filler to get the ball past a sharp edge where the breach plug and barrel meet. Otherwise the sharp edge cuts the patch and I can't keep the ball on the paper. This load and a tight patched ball is VERY accurate.
