What muzzle loader is this

[Robertakamagoo]

The last one on the right what’s make is it

 

[andy52]

appears to be a three-band Enfield to me.

 

[Robertakamagoo]

Here’s a better picture

 

[Loyer]

Yup Andy 52 is correct.. Three band Enfield pattern 1853 rifled musket. The VR stands for Queen Victoria

 

[Robertakamagoo]

Is it original

 

[TFoley]

Is it original

All I can say, from, looking at hundreds of real ones, it that is DOES actually look real. The replications just do not have that patina.

 

[Loyer]

Poor brazing job on the rear site is wrong; the front nose cap looks wrong; lock and barrel bands look correct Could still be the real thing.

 

[Robertakamagoo]

Poor brazing job on the rear site is wrong; the front nose cap looks wrong; lock and barrel bands look correct Could still be the real thing.

Thanks

 

[Robertakamagoo]

ok thanks guys

 

[Sam squanch]

Could be the real thing. Or an old period copy for export sales, I had a carbine that was like an Enfield, but rougher and no government stamps on it. Look for Euroarms or Armi Sport or made in Italy on it….

 

[TreeMan]

I ran across an Indian made replica that looked exactly like yours. Is yours a shiny smooth bore?

 

[Robertakamagoo]

I ran across an Indian made replica that looked exactly like yours. Is yours a shiny smooth bore?

It’s for sale I’m going to look at it this week.

 

[Trot]

I've never seen an original with the crown in front of the hammer, in fact the only repro I have ever seen with the crown in front was an Indian made repro.

 

[Loyer]

Trot may be correct. The earlier Brown Bess muskets had the Crown insignia forward of the hammer but this was revised for the pattern 1853 to behind the hammer.

 

[Boatncamp]

Just gotta ask, not that I have funds at the moment, are the others for sale too.?

 

[brushblind]

Buy em all, I would!

 

[Robertakamagoo]

Just gotta ask, not that I have funds at the moment, are the others for sale too.?

I got the Sharps all ready the two others are for sale.

 

[appalichian hunter]

From looking at the other guns I would say it's a repro. Any info on the two rifles on the left, asking for a friend.

 

[Conquerordie]

Yeah the Brit made Enfield's for their military, or trade on the open market were much better made than that one. Id say repro.

 

[Robertakamagoo]