Well, I have a weekend again to use the outdoors, and would like to take my Hawkins 50 calibur, (made in Italy)flintlock with me. but in experimenting and finally learning to use real blackpowder and not that synthetic stuff, I need a new piece of flint, or several for that matter. The piece that came with the gun is so used up and small now, I don't have a reliable way to measure it to order some English Flints. I am still new to the flintlock, but love it better than my cap 50 calibur, Hawkins. Any help would be aprreciated.
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what size of flint do I use
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I'm not familiar with the Italian guns, but the flint should be no wider than the frizzen. Measure from about 1/8 inch from the face of the frizzen to the jaw screw withe lock on half ****. that will get you a usable flint. Order the closest size to your measurements.
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Give Rich Pierce flints a try. He is here on this forum. a lot cheaper than english, my t/c likes them better, you cant beat em. :v
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Measure the width of the frizzen about half way down where it starts being the same width.
That is the width to buy.
IMO, if you can't find a flint (which are sold by the width) that is that wide get the next size wider.
If you end up with a flint that is wider than the frizzen locate the extra width to the outside of the frizzen when you clamp it in the leather pad in the **** jaws. That way it won't hit the side of your barrel when the **** falls.
The only real negative about having a wider flint is that the extra width can be a safety hazard sticking out in the breeze.
As for the length, all of the flints I've seen come in different widths as I mentioned but the lengths seem to be whatever the flint knapper decided to make them.
I've seen long and short ones in the same pile as I was digging thru them looking for one that suited my fancy.
Measure the width of the frizzen about half way down where it starts being the same width.
That is the width to buy.
IMO, if you can't find a flint (which are sold by the width) that is that wide get the next size wider.
If you end up with a flint that is wider than the frizzen locate the extra width to the outside of the frizzen when you clamp it in the leather pad in the **** jaws. That way it won't hit the side of your barrel when the **** falls.
The only real negative about having a wider flint is that the extra width can be a safety hazard sticking out in the breeze.
As for the length, all of the flints I've seen come in different widths as I mentioned but the lengths seem to be whatever the flint knapper decided to make them.
I've seen long and short ones in the same pile as I was digging thru them looking for one that suited my fancy.
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Most have lasted into the next year
Better than any store boughts Ive ever tried.
Thanks Rich, You have made My rifle a joy to shoot.
Last year for the first time ever, I had to use two rocks in one year :thumbsup:
Most have lasted into the next year
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lonehunter said:
That's all that four of the seven responses said, but he asked about size, not where to buy. :rotf:
Buy flints that are as wide as your frizzen.
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Well,Carl, what answer do you give him as to the LENGTH of the flint?
Seems to me that when all the poster says is that its an " Italian made Hawken", rifle, we don't have much to go on beyond pure speculation.
Zonie answered the length question. Measure from the front of the **** screw to the face of the frizzen with the **** at the half **** notch. Then subtract 1/8" to find a length. Whatever that number is, look for a size close to it.
That is about as good as anyone can say without actually seeing the lock, and gun. Some of the suppliers are so used to answering these questions about flint length, that they know the correct size if you give them the source of the gun. Italian made guns are sold through several vendors here, so its important to know which vendor sold the gun. If the only company in Italy that made these kinds of guns is Pedersoli, the answer would be fairly easy to give. But, there are several firms that have made these guns in Italy, and Spain, and elsewhere, so its anybody's guess. Worse, some of these import guns have locks made in other countries than the country that makes the barrel, and puts the barrel and stock together.
You continue to basically criticize posts of people you don't like, Carl, without offering a bit of informative answers of your own. Do you have any idea how tiring that kind of post is to read? Do you have any idea how many people here have you pegged???
I used to think you have something of value to contribute to this site. I am beginning to second guess my original assessment. I wish you would surprise all of us with the next post you make- and actually say something of substance. :shocked2: :thumbsup:
Seems to me that when all the poster says is that its an " Italian made Hawken", rifle, we don't have much to go on beyond pure speculation.
Zonie answered the length question. Measure from the front of the **** screw to the face of the frizzen with the **** at the half **** notch. Then subtract 1/8" to find a length. Whatever that number is, look for a size close to it.
That is about as good as anyone can say without actually seeing the lock, and gun. Some of the suppliers are so used to answering these questions about flint length, that they know the correct size if you give them the source of the gun. Italian made guns are sold through several vendors here, so its important to know which vendor sold the gun. If the only company in Italy that made these kinds of guns is Pedersoli, the answer would be fairly easy to give. But, there are several firms that have made these guns in Italy, and Spain, and elsewhere, so its anybody's guess. Worse, some of these import guns have locks made in other countries than the country that makes the barrel, and puts the barrel and stock together.
You continue to basically criticize posts of people you don't like, Carl, without offering a bit of informative answers of your own. Do you have any idea how tiring that kind of post is to read? Do you have any idea how many people here have you pegged???
I used to think you have something of value to contribute to this site. I am beginning to second guess my original assessment. I wish you would surprise all of us with the next post you make- and actually say something of substance. :shocked2: :thumbsup:
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paulvallandigham said:
Wow, what a coincidence. I used to think the same about your posts. :rotf:
I'm just wondering if everyone has read the new rules about personal conflicts cluttering up the posts on this forum?
In other words. Knock it off, now.
In other words. Knock it off, now.
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I don't think Rich could have made it any easier to figure out what size flint you need.
http://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/fusionbb/showtopic.php?tid/236987/
http://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/fusionbb/showtopic.php?tid/236987/
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