What the heck?

[Musketeer]

Apparently, gun control has been with us longer than we thought...... :shocking: :crackup:

:thumbsup:

 

[shmrck1]

Musketeer,
i don't the date of this notice but it certainly shows why such groups as the NRA and the NMLRA are so important to us all that participate in this thing of ours.

snake-eyes :imo: :m2c: eace: :thumbsup:

 

[Gary]

Isn't two miles is stretching it a bit for a blackpowder rifle musket or a breechloader? The Whitworth was tested out to 1800 yards and I've read of Berdan's Sharp Shooters setting up a rifle battery of heavy target rifles against a single piece of Confederate artillery at a distance of 1 mile. Even if we're talking modern breechloaders, 2 miles is a bit far.

OK, I know it's flashbunny being facetious as usual. :agree:

 

[musketman]

Yep, antigun issues go way back, and their "exaggerated" claims can still be seen to this day...

Someone may have made a lucky, once-in-a-lifetime 2 mile shot and these people now think that all rifled muskets can do it...

Plus you had distorted press ethics back then, not much unlike today's tabloids...

 

[jrdavis]

you guys need to read the small print! :m2c:

 

[Ohio Joe]

I would have to agree with you 100%, Musketman...

I would guess that that story came about sometime during the Civil War? When you think about it, "flock" shooting into one or more Division's of enemy Infantry on the move or encamped somewhere, a Union or Confederate Sniper might get lucky?

I have always felt that the antigunners should be the first folks on the battleline during conflict so they can show us how to talk our way out of "harms way", and still defeat the enemy.

 

[musketman]

you guys need to read the small print! :m2c:

I think the fine print (flashbunny.org) copied an old article that was printed in the 1860's and reprinted it...

The style of the article is correct for that era, I have a reference book that shows drawings of muskets that are almost identical...

If it be a joke, as least someone did their homework and researched the subject...

 

[jrdavis]

The language does not seem 19th Century

 

[Claude Mathis]

The language does not seem 19th Century

You are correct.

It's obvious this ad is a parody of the modern gun control rhetoric.

 

[RussB]

The language does not seem 19th Century

You are correct.

It's obvious this ad is a parody of the modern gun control rhetoric.

I suspect you're right C.
OTH we only need to read Ned Roberts to realize there were some pretty big problems, even 200 years ago.
Ned Roberts used an example of hiding gun powder in a bucket of lard "at least 7" deep" on both ends to avoid government detection. To me, this would indicate problems of some kind have existed for a spell.
However, the poster / notice we see above is just a bit to precise to be believable....perhaps shooters of the time thought so too?? I dunno.
Russ

 

[bulletman]

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[Zonie]

Whether it is real or not, the fact is that thruout history people have been banning (or attempting to ban) weapons.

Owning pistols, rifles, shotguns, swords, knives of all types...(the list goes on and on) has been illegal somewhere in the world at one time or another.

Possessing an Air Rifle would get you killed at one time if the French found it.

Banning things is based on either Fear, or the desire for Power. Often both, feeding on one another to build their case.

Even the most honest people who wish to ban something cannot resist the temptation to exaggerate the worst, if it serves their purpose.

The dishonest of them will go to no lengths to distort and vilify the things they are working against.

 

[jrdavis]

which one of Ned's books was that in?

 

Goooooood Greef fellas!!!

You boys never taught high school, did you?

There's a Flashbunny coppyright at the bottom right corner.

Still, even though you been had, Lexington and concord were about the British attempt to seize weapons and ammunition.

The "shot heard round the world" was fired over gun control!

Modern politicians get tied up in social pholosophy, special group and party politics and forget this basic fact.

God created all men equil. The Constitution confirmed this status. Sam Colt guarenteed it!

:imo:

 

[RussB]

which one of Ned's books was that in?

In my copy of "The Muzzle-Loading Cap Lock Rifle", published by Bonanza Books, on page 109.
Copyright dates; MCMXL, MCMMXLIV, MCMXLVII, and MCMLII
(Im not that hot on Roman Numerals, but I "think" that is 1950, 1954, 1957, and 1952...some of you smarter fellows help me out here.)


It says, in part:
"it seems that the civilian rifleman in those days had problems getting powder.
Hillard wrote his customer; "I can furnish a 25 pound can of Hazard's Fg Kentucky Rifle Powder for $20.00, but it will be shipped as LARD (not gunpowder) in a 50 pound lard tierce, from a grocer friend, and you will have to pay for about 20 pounds of lard as well as the powder in order to get it.
It will be packed in this way: A 50 pound lard tierce will have a false bottom set in 7 inches deep under the true bottom and this space is filled with lard.
The can of powder is put in and a false top set snugly in place, the 7 inch space is then filled with lard, and the true top fastened in place. You will receive the shipment of LARD with your powder in the middle.
The Government Inspectors us a "lard tester" with a 6 inch blade; therefore a 7 inch depth of lard in each end will pass the Inspector's lard-tester all right even if both ends of the tierce are tested".

note by Russ; I take this time frame to be about 1835, as that is about the time D.H.Hillard, gunsmith, was in business.
I don't know "why" the "Government Inspector" would be checking for contraband, ie, gunpowder at that time. Although I've read the book many times since I owned it, it just doesn't seem to be in this book.
And, The best defination I have found for a "tierce", as used here, is; "any of various units of liquid capacity equal to...42 gallons, or 159 liters".........

There, now you know about as much as I do about "why" gunpowder would be packed in lard...and at least as much as to why I would suspect there was some problems with gun ownership for some time now.
Respectfully, Russ

 

[musketman]

There's a Flashbunny coppyright at the bottom right corner.

I seen that, however, they could have reproduced an origional ad (this one in general) for kicks and giggles...

They do print this on shirts...

 

[jrdavis]

after reading your reply I do remember reading that...I wonder what the deal was getting powder???every time I read that book I see something new. good book

 

[roundball]

The featured "handbill" is bogus...a spoof

 

[Stumpkiller]

MCMXL, MCMMXLIV, MCMXLVII, and MCMLII

MCMXL = 1,000 + 900 + 40 = 1940
MCMMXLIV = 1,000 + 900 + 1000(?) + 40 + 4 = 2,944??
MCMXLVII = 1947
MCMLII = 1952

You either have an extra "M" in the second one or the publisher does. It doesn't follow the rules.

 

[RussB]

MCMXL, MCMMXLIV, MCMXLVII, and MCMLII

MCMXL = 1,000 + 900 + 40 = 1940
MCMMXLIV = 1,000 + 900 + 1000(?) + 40 + 4 = 2,944??
MCMXLVII = 1947
MCMLII = 1952

You either have an extra "M" in the second one or the publisher does. It doesn't follow the rules.

Geez! I had to go look....Now I know you aren't going to believe this! I didn't believe it myself! So, I looked again! Then again, just to be sure!
It was me! can you believe that? :crackup: :crackup:

Not only can I NOT read it right, I can't even copy it right!
Thanks Stumpy.

Russ