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Inspired by a couple other current threads. I would like to hear what woods y'all have seen used for ramrods. Mostly woods that have been successfully used. I'm not interested in that mystery Asian stuff (wood?) sold in craft shops.
In addition to hickory, I have seen and heard of ebony rods, also Osage Orange.
What know ye?
 
I made one out of an oak dowel rod once. It didnt work very well. It seemed as though the oak was too brittle for the task.
 
Hickory , osage orange and ash are the most often used woods native to north america. Walnut will work as well but isn't used much . Ebony was used for some fancy pistols but overall ebony is to brittle for long rifles. :idunno:
 
I have made a couple rods out of ramin dowels from TOTW. They have nice straight grain and take stain/finish well. They are strong and flexible.

HD
 
since I have no desire to have a broken rod stuck in my hand, I won't use wood rods at all. In the old days they had no choice, but today we do.
 
When thinking of ramrods, you want straight grain, and flexibility. Hickory grows straight for long sections of the trunk.

Next to consider is HOW much effort is needed to make such a rod. REMEMBER, they didn't have power saws like we do today. SPLITTING WOOD was the fastest way to get long straight wood for projects. Then the "split" could be worked down into the round with draw knives, and spokeshaves. If someone had a "cutting Plate", it took no time at all to shape the end of a "split" down to fit through the hole. Then the the rest of the stick was pulled through the plate's hole, forming a straight grained rod. Since groove and tenon construction also used hundreds of wooden pegs, and those pegs were made the same way- often of hickory-- and of white oak( straight grains and good strength for a short length , the skills needed were common, learned by the young, and used often.

If you can find Osage growing down in a hollow, out of the wind, you might find some straight grain for making rods. Better use would be to make bows. Its very hard wood to both cut with saws, or shape with knives and chisels. When it ages and dries, its a bit more brittle than Hickory, and may not give you the working life that a Hickory ramrod will give you. It will split along the grain, but its really hard work to get those splits out of a log.

Oh, split rail fencing was the primary Money maker for men who knew how to split logs quickly. Ramrods were made from the pieces that were less than desirable, for one reason or another, for fence rails. If you look at any split rail fence, the rails are long enough to provide 3 or more ramrods for most rifles. AND, if you live long enough, you might notice that the same hickory split rail fence you first saw as a child is still standing more than 40 years later.

How many times do you have to put new shingles on a roof in that same period of time? :hmm: :v :wink: :thumbsup:
 
Rat Trapper I agree which is why I make and use ramrods from brown fiberglass. I have enough scars in my wrist from a wooden ramrod. I only use wood rods where required, and then I use a thinner patch for easier loading. :idunno: :idunno:
 
I agree with most of what you say. My intention was possibly finding suitable alternate woods for rods. And, also, the possible beauty factor. I think an ebony rod would look great. But practical? No.
I disagree with your comment about older Osage Orange becoming brittle. It is not as hard to work as some make out. I work it quite a bit, mostly turning on a lathe. Bows would not be made from it if it turned brittle. What it does do is get stronger and stronger with age. Unbelievable stuff. I have made mallets from it that will dent steel. :shocked2: (not really, I made that up :wink: ) So far, for wood rods, hickory remains the king. Methinks ash might be a decent second place wood. I might have to try it.
 
Rifleman, you just gotta get the right maple. After all, maple is and has been used extensively for bows. I go through the maple dowel bin at the hardware store and look closely to find ones which have no run out and which flex nicely between my hands. I've never broken a rod made out of maple or good birch and I've been shooting front stuffers since the early '70's. I'd actually rather have either over hickory any day.
 
shortbow said:
Rifleman, you just gotta get the right maple. After all, maple is and has been used extensively for bows. I go through the maple dowel bin at the hardware store and look closely to find ones which have no run out and which flex nicely between my hands. I've never broken a rod made out of maple or good birch and I've been shooting front stuffers since the early '70's. I'd actually rather have either over hickory any day.


I'm not a bowyer, user or maker, and had never heard of maple for bows. Interesting.
 
The majority of the fiberglass laminated bows of the 60's and 70's - Bears, Brownings, Howatts (Martins), Pearsons, etc., used maple laminations between the glass layers. I hunt with bows of that age and they are still going strong.

Have not tried of or heard of a maple rammer, however. :idunno:
 
First and foremost, NEVER, NEVER use a dowell from a hobby shop or a lumber yard. They are not made from split wood, they are sawn and, consequently, will always have grain runout. Grain runout is EXTREMELY DANGEROUS because it will break along the grain lines and can run through your hand or arm if you are using it as a ramrod to load your rifle. There may be other suitable woods available but the only one that I trust is SPLIT HICKORY. Hickory is strong and flexable and very resistant to breaking. When a ramrod is made from split wood, the splitting follows the grain of the wood and there will be no grain runout.

I have used Osage Orange for other things but have never used it for making ramrods. I made a chair from Osage Orange and my wife forbid me from making anything else from it. Osage Orange has a chemical in the wood that makes a wonderful yellow dye. When my wife washed my work clothes, the sawdust in my clothes stained everything in that load of clothes yellow. She was not a happy camper. Still, if I had a piece of straight grained Osage Orange long enough, I might try making a rod from it. It should work since boyers use it to make great bows, it is obviously strong and flexable.

Some folks will tell you that soaking your rod in kerosine will make it more flexable and strong. I tried it and could tell no difference. It didn't hurt anything but didn't seem to help either. If you want to give it a try, get a piece of galvenized or PVC pipe, cap it on one end, fill it with kerosine and put your rod in it. Cap the open end to keep the kerosine from evaporating and let it sit for a few weeks to a month. After soaking it, wipe it dry, let it air dry a few days and then rub in a few coats of BLO and your rod is ready.
 
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