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No, you don't need cushion wads and you don't need chemicals or scrubbing brushes 🤣🤣🤣.
I can't believe how difficult some make it.

You will still get leading if you use the so called cushion wad that does cushion nothing once the combustion starts!

Adding lube does help but all you gotta do is use boiled water. Lifts the lead right off.
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No, you don't need cushion wads and you don't need chemicals or scrubbing brushes 🤣🤣🤣.
I can't believe how difficult some make it.

You will still get leading if you use the so called cushion wad that does cushion nothing once the combustion starts!

Adding lube does help but all you gotta do is use boiled water. Lifts the lead right off.
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Does your wife know what you are doing with her kettle?
 
Well I wouldn't listen to me either. Afterall I have only been shooting muzzleloading shotguns in competition for over 40 years
Even tied the national record at friendship back in the 80s.
I'd listen to the brit that shoots 4f in 12 gauge instead, then cleans his shotgun with boiling water so his bores flash rust. What a knucklehead.
You folks are on your own.
 
Save your money pal.
You are receiving the usual misinformation.
Get the barrel hot with boiled water. The lead will lift out.
Britsmoothy,, thankyou and everyone else. Is that steel wool on the jag?
I may experiment with cushion wads and 1/4 in. Felt wads and lube both for searching for a load my gun likes. Thanks all
 
Well I wouldn't listen to me either. Afterall I have only been shooting muzzleloading shotguns in competition for over 40 years
Even tied the national record at friendship back in the 80s.
I'd listen to the brit that shoots 4f in 12 gauge instead, then cleans his shotgun with boiling water so his bores flash rust. What a knucklehead.
You folks are on your own.
Mike I always try to thank everyone but your advice is on top of my list. You didn't win all those competitions doing it wrong. Thankyou sir
 
Crow,
Are you sure that was leading or could it have been a crud ring?
What lube are you using?

When I shoot shot loads I normally clean any remaining lead or crud with a good brass bore brush wrapped with 0000 steel wool.. She be clean as a whistle then..👍

The only way too know what your gun likes is too shoot it and figure out what works the best.
The funny thing is no two guns shoot alike…
Relatively speaking..

Good luck 👍
 
I don't find you even mildly amusing. Never did, never will.
That's fine, I wasn't jesting.

I'm pasting an expert from V M Starr's book on muzzleloading shotguns.
Maybe you think he is beneath you also?

"I use only one kind of wads and those I cut from cardboard like display signs that are extra thick, about 3/32 is about right and use two of these on the powder and one on the shot. I have had several pretty wise gun men tell me that that is not enough wads before they saw the results but never have had one say a word further on the subject after they had seen one of my guns perform so loaded. You can put in more wads on the powder if you wish or if you enjoy cutting them but my experience tells me that you are just wasting your time and cardboard and in spite of the fact that shot gun shells have felt wads in them and always have had as far as I know I don't think they are at all necessary in a muzzle loader. Anyhow, if my guns shot any better I would not know what to do with the extra efficiency".
 
Another expert from VM Starr.

"First take out the fore-end key and take the barrels off the stock and if you have a nipple wrench take out the nipples, then pour a little cold water through the barrels to soften the fouling and then get a bucket of hot water, set the barrels breech down in the bucket and with a tight patch on the cleaning rod pump the hot water back and forth through the barrels 'till the barrels are too hot to hold, then set them up muzzle down and let them dry of their own heat. If the patch don't seem to loosen the fouling fast enough to suit use a brass brissle brush instead, or the fine steel wool will do, but if your gun is choked don't scrub up close to the muzzle with the steel wool. It would take an awful lot of scrubbing to do you any damage but why take chances, the fouling will mostly be in the lower half of the gun anyhow".
 
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