Wheat bread.

[Eutycus]

"Better living through chemistry" was the motto they used but maybe it should have just been "longer living through chemistry".

 

[tenngun]

I work in a trauma intensive care. While bad things happen to good people 80% of traumas are self inflicted stupidity.
Often not real nice people to begin with and then in pain and then having a nurse or respiratory therapist or lab in making then uncomfortable every time they go to sleep they can turn them down right mean.
However ‘better living through chemicals’ takes on a whole new meaning when someone who is punching and kicking you suddenly goes in to blissful sleep.

 

[Poboy]

Back to topic ( maybe). Yes, I have chronic pain and depression, so sometimes I'm in a bad mood.

But, I also seem to have a brain problem, like CRS. But, B&M brown bread in a can ( especially with rasins) is pretty awesome.

 

[Carbon 6]

But, B&M brown bread in a can ( especially with rasins) is pretty awesome.

I've passed it by many times in the grocery store, never tried it. Next time I see it I'm going to buy a can.

 

[tenngun]

Do like Boston brown bread at a event or sometimes in a camp in the woods. Really a pudding more then ‘bread’ as it’s boiled. I’ve done it many a time in a tin cup put in a pot of water.
Eaten warm with butter or sliced and fried for breakfast.

 

[Carbon 6]

Do like Boston brown bread at a event or sometimes in a camp in the woods. Really a pudding more then ‘bread’ as it’s boiled. I’ve done it many a time in a tin cup put in a pot of water.
Eaten warm with butter or sliced and fried for breakfast.

Boiled ?

 

[sawyer04]

I just now "found" this thread, it looks like an interesting read. After I catch up I'll add my two cents. Has any one gone gluten free on this bread thing yet?

Yes, gluten free here also gluten free pasta, I try to stay away from gluten. Period....

 

[sawyer04]

FYI, Roundup (glyphosate) is the #1 used herbicide, Atrazine is #2 .
Glyphosate is used on corn, beans , and wheat.

Glyphosate is used on GMO products. Back in the day people had a thing about Hybrid seeds. Thought it was detrimental to our health. The hybrids are responsible for feeding more people and seem to be safe. Hybrids were motivated by breeding different characteristics to one plant, much the same as animals or humans. Genetically modified product is messing with the genetics of a product and with the mix of Glyphosates, I believe has the potential of altering genetics of any consumption, creating a Frankenstein of new genetic problems. The most fragile results are indicated by our honey bee crisis, and the unwanted foliage becoming immune to the evil chemicals of time. I spent most of my life not knowing margarine was an additive away from being a plastic explosive.

 

[Carbon 6]

From what I've read, Glyphosate is a mutagenic.

 

[pnw]

Life long farmer here, no glyphosate tolerant wheat is commercially available. Roundup kills wheat. Glyphosate is a tool that when used properly is very safe. Less mutagenic than table salt. Kind of like the anti gluten craze, lots of talk not much reality. Whole wheat as part of a balanced diet is great energy, needs lots of things to go with it to be balanced.

 

[Eutycus]

Its been over 20 years since I've been in the farming business, but I don't recall using Roundup on any grain crops. But then we don't grow wheat in South Texas. To simplify it we used Roundup (glyphosate) on cotton (broadleafs) and atrizene on grains (slender leaf crops). I could be wrong and have it backwards, the old memory isn't what it used to be.

 

[Kansas Jake]

I used Roundup almost 40 years ago to kill weeds in soybeans. The beans were not roundup tolerant but we had a weed wick mounted on the tractor that applied the herbicide to weeds taller than the beans.

 

[tenngun]

Boiled ?

Yes. Most ‘puddings’ in the old days were some sort of bread mix put in a bag and boiled for four to six hours. I understand but never researched it that ‘pud’ And ‘ paunch ‘ are from the same boot word. The first puddings or paunchings were meat and flour sausage boiled in the ready made bag. Later stomach was used as in a haggis, lastly just a bread mix in a cloth bag.
You can do a Boston brown bread in a bag but since caned food became common putting it in an old can was the go to.
I’ve got a I qt brass cooing pot from Townsend that isn’t fully historical copy but close enough for me that works.
Pour in the batter have something to act as a trivit in the pot and boil for a few hours, but I find a bag easier to clean.
That’s the type of bread the B&M brown bread in a can is

 

[Carbon 6]

Yes. Most ‘puddings’ in the old days were some sort of bread mix put in a bag and boiled for four to six hours. I understand but never researched it that ‘pud’ And ‘ paunch ‘ are from the same boot word. The first puddings or paunchings were meat and flour sausage boiled in the ready made bag. Later stomach was used as in a haggis, lastly just a bread mix in a cloth bag.
You can do a Boston brown bread in a bag but since caned food became common putting it in an old can was the go to.
I’ve got a I qt brass cooing pot from Townsend that isn’t fully historical copy but close enough for me that works.
Pour in the batter have something to act as a trivit in the pot and boil for a few hours, but I find a bag easier to clean.
That’s the type of bread the B&M brown bread in a can is

Are you saying B&M brown bread is boiled?

 

[tenngun]

Probably ran in an industrial pressure cooker. I’ve done a lot of home caning but I don’t really know how it’s done on an industrial scale, but the bread style is the home style Boston or New England style brown bread, and that’s a boiled bread.
I teased my mother, who grew up in the depression in Rhode Island,That New Englanders boiled everything even bread. She liked to say steamed.
Bought BandM as teen to early 20s. Before I learned to make my own. Would poke a hole in the top then put in a pan of water and boil about an hour just to warm through.
Other boiled bread are Tamales and potstickers German pot pies and dumplings one could say pasta and noodles, though with puddings you get a ‘loaf’.

 

[sawyer04]

Life long farmer here, no glyphosate tolerant wheat is commercially available. Roundup kills wheat. Glyphosate is a tool that when used properly is very safe. Less mutagenic than table salt. Kind of like the anti gluten craze, lots of talk not much reality. Whole wheat as part of a balanced diet is great energy, needs lots of things to go with it to be balanced.

Been around farming myself a day or two also, have you noticed some undesirable plants growing immunity to glyphosates, not trying to start anything, just curious. Gluten effects different people in different ways, like the different medications that are prescribed. most people, gluten does not effect.

 

[Zonie]

Reading about the Boston brown bread got me interested in how it's made so I did a web search.
I came up with a lot of hits for good sounding recipes so I'll pass along a few that looked interesting.

https://www.simplyrecipes.com/recipes/boston_brown_bread/

https://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2014/02/easy-boston-brown-bread.html

https://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/views/boston-brown-bread-104112

I also found some recipes that cooked rapidly but I doubt they would result in something that was very traditional.

Wheat and Rye flour + cornmeal, molasses, buttermilk plus raisins or currents if you want them.

What's not to like ?

 

[tenngun]

It’s tasty, and historic, and if your trekking or going to an event you can just throw it in a haversack and will kept at room temp sans problem. Use as a savory or a dessert

 

[Carbon 6]

What's not to like ?

Now I'm hungry.

 

[wiksmo]

I have some catching up to do since I just found this thread. Did a quick skim, and the portion on B&M Brown Bread grabbed my attention. Also found the farming experiences of some MLF members are most interesting.

To be honest, I still have some challenges when buying bread...lots of "stuff" in those ingredients listed. Found this article about brown bread and it looks to be a good food. https://newengland.com/today/food/new-england-made/bm-brown-bread-in-a-can/

Especially liked the "breakfast menu," and comments like "B&M brown bread in a can is pretty awesome," and "Wheat and Rye flour + cornmeal, molasses, buttermilk plus raisins or currents if you want them. What's not to like ?"

You know, I joined this Forum with an initial goal of learning more about black powder and my first-time .50 CAL pistol. Threads like this one are just the icing on the cake for me.

This will be a restful read for Sunday afternoon. So much to learn, and seems like so little time!