Whiskey Flask Liner

[necchi]

Does anyone have advice as to my queries above?

Sure, a "horn" made to carry liquid,, wasn't meant to carry liquid for long.
A single day's use at best. Not for "storage".
So there is no fix without difficulties for something like that.(period)
The "rum flask" was used for a day's ration. And the day's ration was usually used that day.
Thus the creation of amphora,,

If you'd like to use a horn for long term use of a spirited beverage, then modern techniques need to be used. There is nothing historical about a "horn of whiskey".

traveling/camping item, so it would have to hold the whiskey for extended periods.

You need to look into getting a ceramic jug or wooden barrel.
Check your local history,, I'm pretty sure that "whiskey" was made a little bit after ceramic carry vessels were available..

 

[Eutycus]

The whiskey is just for cleaning, right?

 

[SAOutdoorsman]

Sure, a "horn" made to carry liquid,, wasn't meant to carry liquid for long.
A single day's use at best. Not for "storage".
So there is no fix without difficulties for something like that.(period)
The "rum flask" was used for a day's ration. And the day's ration was usually used that day.
Thus the creation of amphora,,

If you'd like to use a horn for long term use of a spirited beverage, then modern techniques need to be used. There is nothing historical about a "horn of whiskey".

You need to look into getting a ceramic jug or wooden barrel

There used to be a lovely advert that showed on TV a while back, concerning my choice of poison here and there was a catch-phrase that's stuck with me, and it went: "Where is the best whiskey made? Ask a Scot, and he'll tell you".

Now, if you were to ask a Scot about whiskey horns and how long they carried whiskey in there, he'll tell you too. The Scottish traveler often used a whiskey flask made of ram's horn and they'd keep their whiskey in there as they trekked around their country.
My own folk, the Boers, also used whiskey horns from time-to-time. They'll tell you too.

I'm assuming from your mention of rum that you're from the States? Now while whiskey may have not been big there, it definitely was elsewhere. Now I still intend to make wooden canteens, and swigglers and leather costrels and so on, but I damn-well wanted a whiskey horn and I made one and I will see it functional.

SAO

 

[SAOutdoorsman]

The whiskey is just for cleaning, right?

Hi Eutycus,

Cleaning and drinking, and perhaps for medicine too.

SAO

 

[necchi]

There used to be a lovely advert that showed on TV ,,My own folk, the Boers, also used whiskey horns from time-to-time. They'll tell you too.

Ok, I'm sure your correct.
But they would have also dealt with the difficulties and unsavory aspect of doing so.

I am sorry, I had "presumed" you where referring to storage that would maintain the palatable aspect of said spirits.
Our history here in the USA also has a varied and interesting history of consumption.
Basically, from what I know of "my own folk",, made their own,, and when they did that,, they used "other than horn" for carry vessels.
Bladders and hide/leather bota have already been mentioned. And ceramic or wooden flasks/kegs where available during the time of 250yrs ago.
Good luck with your historical "horn" whiskey carry.

 

[GoodRabbitPilgrim]

I can't help with the topic but I would love some of your hunting stories from your part of the world.

 

[DuncNZ]

Alcohol was usually carried in small barrels ,Some small barrels of a quart or two often had a carrying strap with a side bung , not a tap and could be drunk straight from the bung hole or poured into a horn or pewter mug . Drinking horns were used for drinking out of the big end not carrying alcohol .
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[SAOutdoorsman]

Alcohol was usually carried in small barrels ,Some small barrels of a quart or two often had a carrying strap with a side bung , not a tap and could be drunk straight from the bung hole or poured into a horn or pewter mug . Drinking horns were used for drinking out of the big end not carrying alcohol .
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Cutfinger,

Yes some cultures drank out of horns as you'd drink out of a cup. And others, like I've mentioned, the Scots and the Boers, used horns to carry their drink in. Horns are rather plentiful when you work with sheep or cattle.
Now, being a natural container, you'd need only plug the one end and you have a flask. To the point of this thread, I do not wish to debate what item must be used to carry what drink - I want to know how to line my horn so that it is safe to use. The questions I've asked are at the top and I am hoping there is a fellow here that can help me. And I thank those who've already offered suggestions as to a liner.

Kind regards,
SAO

 

[Robby]

Skoal! Hic!
Robby

 

[No Deer]

A note on "pc": I'm not too worried about that. In fact I detest political correctness as it were.

In this case, he was referring to Period Correct, not political.

 

[oldwood]

After having considerable experience with alcohol , good , bad , and indifferent, think Powder goes in horns ,and alcohol in glass container , with a cork stopper. The only technology needed here would be , how long to soak the cork to prevent evaporation , and perhaps a ubiquitous pocket in the back , or side of the shot pouch ??...............oldwood

 

[Colonial Boy]

What happens if you just put whiskey in a horn with no liner?

 

[toot]

Alcohol was usually carried in small barrels ,Some small barrels of a quart or two often had a carrying strap with a side bung , not a tap and could be drunk straight from the bung hole or poured into a horn or pewter mug . Drinking horns were used for drinking out of the big end not carrying alcohol .
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that guy is differently getting / having a swig!

 

[toot]

Welcome.

 

[Brokennock]

In this case, he was referring to Period Correct, not political.

I picked up on the o.p.'s confusion on this in one of his earlier replies. Lol.
It does take some getting used to for new folks, especially in these times, I imagine.

Just to reiterate for the o.p. @SAOutdoorsman, in terms of what we discuss here in the general part of the forum,,, h.c.=historically correct and p.c.=period correct.
There are some excellent discussions of the difference between the two in the general reenacting section so we don't sully your excellent topic with that discussion here.

 

[SAOutdoorsman]

What happens if you just put whiskey in a horn with no liner?

Hi there,

That was one of my questions above yes. I'm wondering if it will be feasible to do so and just let the current liner wear off. I hope someone has had a good experience with un-lined horns.

Kind regards,
SAO

 

[SAOutdoorsman]

I picked up on the o.p.'s confusion on this in one of his earlier replies. Lol.
It does take some getting used to for new folks, especially in these times, I imagine.

Just to reiterate for the o.p. @SAOutdoorsman, in terms of what we discuss here in the general part of the forum,,, h.c.=historically correct and p.c.=period correct.
There are some excellent discussions of the difference between the two in the general reenacting section so we don't sully your excellent topic with that discussion here.

Hi Brokennock,

Thanks for the correction, and it by no means sullies the topic.

To be honest, it's the first time I've heard "Period Correct". Here in South Africa we've just used the word "Period". And with the common term "pc" referring to being politically correct, I mistook it for that.

Thanks,
SAO

 

[SAOutdoorsman]

After having considerable experience with alcohol , good , bad , and indifferent, think Powder goes in horns ,and alcohol in glass container , with a cork stopper. The only technology needed here would be , how long to soak the cork to prevent evaporation , and perhaps a ubiquitous pocket in the back , or side of the shot pouch ??...............oldwood

oldwood,

Thanks for your reply.

I would like to know, what were your bad experiences? Was it just a bad taste from the alcohol? Or did it make you sick? What were the negative points for you?

Kind regards,
SAO

 

[Freedom]

I have made several whiskey horns. "Pure" and very HOT beeswax works perfectly for sealing horn, or leather flasks. The wax does not soften in whiskey from my testing.
And the best part is, pure beeswax will not alter the precious flavors of the whiskey nectar either.

 

[JBrandon]

Short answer to all of this: pine resin is soluble in alcohol.