Who Made This Lock

[bgeipel]

I am not entirely sure of who made the lock - here are some photos of it. If anyone can identify it, I would like to know!

 

[smo]

I'm not certain Barry but the Z on the back may be the trademark for Larry Zornes that's the lock I thought was on my gun but now I think mine is a Pete Allen. Zornes builds locks for RE Davis I think :idunno: I've read so much over the past few years that sometimes I get my info confused . :youcrazy: :redface: :shake: maybe someone with better memory will help me out :thumbsup: Dang I just noticed the M G on the back also. Did I mention I don't see very well too. M&G is for Mold &Gun Zornes either owns that company or makes locks for them as well. M & G is located in Ohio.

 

[bgeipel]

Yeah, I think M/G is mold and gun shop so I think this must be the lock - or very close to it.

http://www.redaviscompany.com/0980.html

Barry

 

[bgeipel]

What the heck?

This was on the thread about my smoothbore fowler and this bit somehow got moved to Flintlock Rifles sub forum?

What gives?

Barry

 

[Keb]

It is positively a Mold & Gun Shop lock made by Larry Zorn in Ohio

 

[Rifleman1776]

I think mine is a Pete Allen. Zornes builds locks for RE Davis I think I've read so much over the past few years that sometimes I get my info confused .

Yer not alone. This is a "who's on first?" situation. I 'heard' Pete Allen owns, or owned, the moulding company that made all the locks for both Davis and L&R. Then I 'heard' he sold to someone else. Zorne maybe? Dunno?
Pete Allen has been around a long time, not surprising he would sell his business and retire. BTW, my good flint longrifle has an Allen built Siler and has never failed me with 40 years of use and countless thousands of shots. Even in pouring rain once.

 

[ZUG]

This is a lock by Larry Zornes of The Mold & Gun Shop. I have used his lock for rifle builds and I think it is a very good lock. I have never had a complaint from anyone about this lock :wink: .

 

[smo]

Guys I just posted a pic of the back side of my lock plate on my Tip Curtis rifle in the photo section here .Sorry it took do long to post it. This is the lock I think is a Pete Allen lock but is simular to the M/G lock on Barry's gun :thumbsup:

 

[gunmaker43]

Indeed a "Davis" M&G continental from Zorne's shop.
A great lock, copy of an early French design...Just put one a a fusil de traite---hot sparker....Tom

 

[TAC2]

Well from what i can find it is a Barker Whatley , It is a English Trade lock from around 1770 to 1790’s ..
Hope this helps ...TAC2..

 

[Keb]

Well from what i can find it is a Barker Whatley , It is a English Trade lock from around 1770 to 1790’s ..
Hope this helps ...TAC2..

This is the Barker Whatley lock:

This is the M & G Continental Flintlock:

I've used the Barker Whatley lock on many smoothbores with great success. I've never used the other one seen here but both are made by Larry Zorn & sold by R E Davis. The Continental lock looks nice IMHO.