Who the heck made this Hawken rifle?

[Frontier's]

Yep. Wouldn't be surprised if the parent company in Spain is still jukar or ardessa. CVA and traditions are just the US importer name for the company.

Actually, I believe dikar, the maker of cva, Actually bought the brand out some years ago. I'd have to find the podcast discussing that area.

 

[JimFlint]

I feel really stupid.
For some reason I assumed Odessa was a place in Spain. lol

In black power shooting there is so much to learn and no one is born an expert, though some might think they were. : ) Please use caution as it is very habit forming and can become an addiction before you know it.
I have had several people with great patience help me along the way. Welcome to this forum, there is a wealth of information in these posts and many people happy to share their knowledge.
Welcome.

 

[reddogge]

I'm always amazed back then these foreign companies didn't try to copy a Hawken rifle, but rather put all of their design energies into copying a Thompson Center Hawken. I guess for marketing purposes.

 

[Frontier's]

I'm always amazed back then these foreign companies didn't try to copy a Hawken rifle, but rather put all of their design energies into copying a Thompson Center Hawken. I guess for marketing purposes.

That looks nothing like a tc hawken.

 

[30coupe]

That looks nothing like a tc hawken.
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Well, it does have an octagon barrel, a percussion lock, a walnut stock and a crescent butt plate. That, however, is where the similarity pretty much ends. This gun has iron furniture (TCs were brass), double barrel pins (TCs had one), fixed rear sight (TCs were adjustable and horrible looking), and a German silver blade front sight (TCs were a blob of a bead sight). Otherwise, yeah, just a copy of a TC Hawken.

 

[longcruise]

I feel really stupid.
For some reason I assumed Odessa was a place in Spain. lol

I did too. I had known of Ardessa but in my advanced years ( getting better and better at playing "The old guy card") I confused the two names. Google is the old guys friend! Odessa is in Ukraine and seems to be spelled Odesa. However, Google also brings up multiple links with it spelled Odessa.

 

[sportster73hp]

Looks kanda like this. Earlier this week I also found the cva version

 

[nit wit]

Ardesa SA makes it, they make guns for Traditions in Pais Vasco Spain.
Nit Wit

 

[reddogge]

That looks nothing like a tc hawken.
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I was referring to the original poster, Arkansas Paul's Hawken, not this one, and his looks like a TC to me.

 

[deerstalkert]

Ok awesome!!! You got one hell of a rifle there! That big 58cal is a machine. I'm not 100% sure if the 58s had a 1:72 twist or the typical 1:66 twist like my 54cal has.

It's a keeper!

had I been able to find a .58, you wouldn't have that .54! I always like pairs
Ardessa's are fine rifles.

 

[Arkansas Paul]

Thanks everyone for the information. I have some Hornady .570 round balls and some 0.015 lubed patches.
If I can procure some powder tomorrow I'll be set to get started.

 

[Coinneach]

I watched a Johnny Carson segment when I was doing things I ought not have been doing back in high school. I was AMAZED later when I learned spaghetti did NOT grow on trees! It was super super realistic and VERY well done. Good stuff back in those days.

Nope, Spaghetti is a Tree grown Food source, and heres the evidence.

Filmed as it happened !

 

[azmntman]

OMG Thats it! Cant wait to show the kids! They thought I was crazy! LOL