why buy a renegade smoothie.

[walruskid1]

have a chance to pick up a renegade .56 smoothie cheap. tell me why i should buy it. what attributes does it have? any advantages? whats the attraction for this portable cannon? talk me into it, please!

 

[Brian Rice]

Those are the most worthless and dangerous guns on the market. For the good of humanity, buy it and send it to me for proper disposal. That is if it is a Flinter. If it is a cap lock, you can dispose of it!!! LOL!!!

I would jump all over it. I think Roundball has one, but I am not for sure. I am sure several will be along shortly to convince you to send it to them for disposal as well.

Good Luck,

Brian

 

[walruskid1]

that bad?

 

[roundball]

have a chance to pick up a renegade .56 smoothie cheap. tell me why i should buy it. what attributes does it have? any advantages? whats the attraction for this portable cannon? talk me into it, please!

I had one, it was novel but I already had .54 & .58cal rifles, so the aspect of round ball shooting was of no interest to me personally...I was thinking of small game shot loads.

It has a short 26"-27" barrel which didn't feel quite right to me personally, the overall model size was a little small for my size (LOP) and it's percussion only so I never used it beyond trying it at the range because I was headed into Flintlocks then.

Then I learned that GM made a .54cal smoothbore drop-in for the TC Hawlen, 33" long, and in both Caplock and Flintlock, so I got that instead, and it's outstanding.

Throws a terrific pattern of #6's at 25yds, and shoots standard .530 PRBs as accurately as my rifle at the 50yd line which is all I've tested it at so far...got a couple bucks with it last month...going to try squirrels shortly.

IMO, if the shorter Renegade model fits you OK, and that it's a caplock, and you're OK with a short barrel, and you're primarily interested in shot loads, it'll probably do fine.
(RB's for it are .550 diameter, somewhat hard to find, expensive, etc)

 

[rudy parnell]

I can report to you that I have one of these guns and I think it is probably one of the best all round guns that you could learn to love. It is 28ga. and packs enough wallop to kill a turkey with chill shot and you can shoot about any kind of patched round ball. If you get the 550's and about .018 patch material you can kill a bear or a deer as far as you can shoot in the woods...about 75yd. I believe if things get rough you could chunk up some nails and get some respect, real fast. Oh! and she goes off when you stroke her just right; the first time, no matter how long she's been lonely. Serious business don't buy the gun. You got money, you got guns, and why not share?.. Everybody needs a smoothbore, after all it's Christmass.

 

[walruskid1]

so its main feature is the use of shot loads? no other advantages?

 

[roundball]

so its main feature is the use of shot loads? no other advantages?

I wouldn't say that unless you already have a ML rifle close in size like a .54 or .58cal...like in my case, I already had a .54cal and a .58cal rifle, so the .56cal RB really offered no special attraction for me...I was only interested in the possibility of shot loads

 

[WV_Hillbilly]

have a chance to pick up a renegade .56 smoothie cheap. tell me why i should buy it. what attributes does it have? any advantages? whats the attraction for this portable cannon? talk me into it, please!

Totally serious now,

These .56cal/28gauge smoothbore Renegades are one of the most versatile guns you could possibly have. They handle shot, ball, and even some buck & ball loads well. They don't use huge amounts of powder. They don't beat you senseless with recoil. They have DS triggers and adjustable sights. They are made by Thompson Center. I can not think of any negative aspects of the gun at all. What more could you want...?

If you are able to pick the gun up "cheaply", consider it even more of a blessing. Apparently, some people just can't see the versatility in it. And IF for some reason, you really need a rifle... you can buy a Green Mt. drop in barrel and have a "two barrel swap gun" that can handle just about anything you'd care to shoot on this continent.

There are several on the forum (besides myself) that have these guns and love them. It's really a neat concept to have such a versatile gun, even though T/C made them for hunting in states that required a smoothbore for muzzleloading season. Obviously that requirement was rescinded or swallowed up by time and pressure on legislation. So these guns are no longer "needed", nor apparently wanted... sad really. It's like having a "Swiss Army Knife" only in muzzleloading form. Why would someone not like that...?

If you buy it and don't like it (though, I think you will like it), I will offer to buy it from you. I have that much confidence in the gun.

Regards, and have fun with that gun!
WV_Hillbilly

 

[musketman]

whats the attraction for this portable cannon? talk me into it, please!

How about buying the gun from a collector's point of view?

T/C stopped making them, so they will become harder to find as time goes on...

 

[Al Bateman 1]

I have the T/C .56 smoothie and really like it. Got it used, in great shape for a small price :grin: .

I've not used it for shot loads yet...waiting for the shot...but it shoots .535 patched roundballs lubed with moose snot (thanks Stumpie) over 65gr Goex 2f (I'm outta 3f) just fine. I say try it..you'll probably like it.
Al

 

[Swampman]

Why but any non-replica muzzleloader?

 

[walruskid1]

Why but any non-replica muzzleloader?

i'm assuming you meant "why buy any non-replica muzzleloader?" my answer is because i want to and i can. please don't try to stir up controversy. i just asked about the pros and cons of a smoothbore.

 

[musketman]

Why but any non-replica muzzleloader?

i'm assuming you meant "why buy any non-replica muzzleloader?" my answer is because i want to and i can. please don't try to stir up controversy. i just asked about the pros and cons of a smoothbore.

Another "plus" would be that you can buy an additional drop in barrel and have a nifty rifle/shotgun combo... :thumbsup:

The only downsize I can think of would be that .56 caliber wads are sometimes hard to come by, or they were...

 

[AZ-Robert]

The only downside I can think of would be that .56 caliber wads are sometimes hard to come by, or they were...

That is something I've been wondering.... some folks are calling it a 56 cal / 28 ga, but a 28 ga is only 0.550 ... if this is a 0.560, those 28 ga components readily available at Track(and elsewhere) are going to be a hair too small (wad diameter of 0.56). Next size up in available wads and cards is 24 ga = 0.579 (wad diameter of 0.589).... probably a tad too large.
[url] http://www.trackofthewolf.com...&subId=37&styleId=118&PageSize=25&Page=3[/url]

 

[roundball]

Why but any non-replica muzzleloader?

i'm assuming you meant "why buy any non-replica muzzleloader?" my answer is because i want to and i can. please don't try to stir up controversy. i just asked about the pros and cons of a smoothbore.

Another "plus" would be that you can buy an additional drop in barrel and have a nifty rifle/shotgun combo... :thumbsup:

The only downsize I can think of would be that .56 caliber wads are sometimes hard to come by, or they were...

FYI, I just used .58cal Oxyoke wads in mine when I had it...

 

[SCATTERSHOT]

The fact that you want it at all is reason enough, IMO. I had one, and it was a real fun gun to play with. The accuracy of that smoothbore barrel will astound you when you find a load it likes, it will shoot shot, it's cheap, and it's fun. what more do you need?

IMO, buy the gun, you won't regret it.

 

[walruskid1]

how would that be with shot? like a cylinder bored choke. wide pattern or tight pattern? just curious how it would be for turkey.

 

[musketman]

how would that be with shot? like a cylinder bored choke. wide pattern or tight pattern? just curious how it would be for turkey.

I would say it would be similar to a .28 gauge or even a .410 with a cylinder bore...

 

[CrackStock]

T/Cs are not collector items, but they are good field guns and provide a great service in attracting people to the traditionally styled side of MLing.

You can expect good interchangeablility in parts and T/C product support is second to none. The exception being for the Seneca/Cherokee line which is due to the factory having burned.

The big question here is whether this particular bore size is useful. I find it a bit small for a shotgun. I prefer a 20 or 12 gauge. Your mileage may vary.

CS

 

[Swampman]

Just trying to help out. About 27 years ago, someone pointed out the shortcomings of modern muzzleloaders to me.